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    Well.....after alot of speculating, jumping around on engine sizes and pros and cons I finally am going to start the build. Here is what im going with:

    Chevy 496 Stroker 650+HP/600+TQ
    Seasoned 454 2pc .060 over
    Scat 4340 Forged Rotating Assembly 10.1:1 Compression
    Profiler 320cc Standard Port Heads 2.300/1.880 Valves
    Crane Cams Gold Race 1.8 Roller Rockers
    Crane Cams Retro Hyd Roller Lifters
    Holley 4150HP 830CFM Carb with 1" spacer
    Trend Pushrods
    Weiand Stealth Dual Plane Intake (Streetability)
    MSD Pro Billet RTR Dist
    MSD 8.5mm Wires
    ARP Head studs and all ARP Bolts
    Probe Industries Stud Girdle
    Moroso Street/Strip Pan
    PowerBond SFI Balancer
    SFI Flexplate
    SA Gear Billet Double Roller W/Torrington Bearing
    Clevite 77 "H" Series Bearings
    Hell Fire Rings (May plan on some nitrous later on)

    Camshaft im debating right now. I have a sample cam here with 242/254 Duration @50 .566/.575 Lift 113LSA but its a little small for what I want. I was looking to be around 230 duration .600 lift or so with either a 113 or 114LSA (gonna most likely do a custom grind). With the 1.8 rockers it will bump my lift up a bit more. Im running Power Steering and Power Brakes and want enough vaccum to stop

    Going to start ordering up the parts next week...OHHHHHHH BOY! Once its done I have my buddy Greg Ducato over @ Phoenix Transmission building me a sweet bullet proof TH400 Trans with Custom Billet 9.5inch Converter.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    NT
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    just remember ky is no substitute for engine assembly lube

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    wasn't it the hellfire rings that got the reputation for nearly making cylinder walls look like chrome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    just remember ky is no substitute for engine assembly lube
    Really...fock im stocked up on it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    wasn't it the hellfire rings that got the reputation for nearly making cylinder walls look like chrome?
    Not that im aware of.....anyone got some insight on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notalent View Post
    Really...fock im stocked up on it!!!!
    yeah, that's why i mentioned it

    seriously, i'd go with some file fit plasma speed pros or total seal, freind of mine(hotbo) used those hellfires in his 468 taylor sj and it chromed the cylinder walls, used oil like a biatch till he changed em and honed the block.

    yep, found more threads here on the hellfires chrome'n cylinder walls:
    http://www.performanceboats.com//sho...light=hellfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    yeah, that's why i mentioned it

    seriously, i'd go with some file fit plasma speed pros or total seal, freind of mine(hotbo) used those hellfires in his 468 taylor sj and it chromed the cylinder walls, used oil like a biatch till he changed em and honed the block.

    yep, found more threads here on the hellfires chrome'n cylinder walls:
    http://www.performanceboats.com//sho...light=hellfire
    KY is a versatile lube...lots of uses for it

    Ouch, now I gotta go out back and ask my builder about this and his thoughts. Gonna do some more diggin around about it too.
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    Edited the rocker arms to a Crane Gold Race 1.8 and changed my cam thoughts....needed some updating since we last discussed it
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    What's this going in? Heavy car? Heads might be just a tad too big, so you need to be pretty spot on with your cam and springs. The hyd roller in the 489 I built went to 6700 with no trouble. Valve train geometry and push rod length are a big factor here. If you're interested in a custom grind, let me know.
    What pistons are you running? Get a set of good moly rings and you'll be fine, just give them a little extra gap for the NoS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    What's this going in? Heavy car? Heads might be just a tad too big, so you need to be pretty spot on with your cam and springs. The hyd roller in the 489 I built went to 6700 with no trouble. Valve train geometry and push rod length are a big factor here. If you're interested in a custom grind, let me know.
    Going in my 1971 Chevelle. Figure about 3800lbs with me in it, needs some torque for that pig Are you talking about the blown 489 build listed here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notalent View Post
    Going in my 1971 Chevelle. Figure about 3800lbs with me in it, needs some torque for that pig Are you talking about the blown 489 build listed here?
    Yes, the blown 489.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notalent View Post
    Well.....after alot of speculating, jumping around on engine sizes and pros and cons I finally am going to start the build. Here is what im going with:

    Chevy 496 Stroker 650+HP/600+TQ
    Seasoned 454 2pc .060 over
    Scat 4340 Forged Rotating Assembly 10.1:1 Compression
    Profiler 320cc Standard Port Heads 2.300/1.880 Valves
    Crane Cams Gold Race 1.8 Roller Rockers
    Crane Cams Retro Hyd Roller Lifters
    Holley 4150HP 830CFM Carb with 1" spacer
    Trend Pushrods
    Weiand Stealth Dual Plane Intake (Streetability)
    MSD Pro Billet RTR Dist
    MSD 8.5mm Wires
    ARP Head studs and all ARP Bolts
    Probe Industries Stud Girdle
    Moroso Street/Strip Pan
    PowerBond SFI Balancer
    SFI Flexplate
    SA Gear Billet Double Roller W/Torrington Bearing
    Clevite 77 "H" Series Bearings
    Hell Fire Rings (May plan on some nitrous later on)





    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    NT
    Seems to me the heads and manifold counterdict each other. Bet a set of 305 AFR's or even Brodix or Trick Flow ovals with a single plane will produce more than enough low end for the street and bury that daul plane. Throw some NOS at it, and it favors the single plane even more. It has been my experience that Hellfire rings want to be loaded (hi cyl pressure) all the time, or they just polish the cylinder walls.



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    I guess I can drop to the 290 Profiler heads and ditch the hellfires. Its difficult planning for now and 6 months from now Right now she is my 100% daily driver, but in 6 months I should be able to save the coin for my new truck and than she will be 70% strip so I want to be able to swap cams and intake to match the bigger heads.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notalent View Post
    I guess I can drop to the 290 Profiler heads and ditch the hellfires. Its difficult planning for now and 6 months from now Right now she is my 100% daily driver, but in 6 months I should be able to save the coin for my new truck and than she will be 70% strip so I want to be able to swap cams and intake to match the bigger heads.....
    Everything is a compromise. Build for the street and your giving up some power at the top, build for the track, and it a bitch to drive on the street. Impossible to build the perfect motor for both



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