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    Found this online today

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    There is a media surge in EFI advertising that is luring people toward EFI with promises of big power, simple use and fast calibration time. EFI has advantages in some arenas. Fuel mileage is typically better with EFI, also for people that are not very mechanical, it offers them the capability to have a performance car with less mechanical knowledge required to operate it. So it has its place in the performance community. But sadly many consumers are disappointed by the over promising of EFIs actual performance capability and they ultimately make the switch back to a carburetor and are happier for the choice. At Pro Systems we calibrate them for you (you don't need to build fuel maps, you don't do it yourself) and our carburetors make horsepower. More than EFI. We custom build and calibrate carburetors for vehicles you race AND you drive. You bolt them on and off you go and they are dead on or darn close. We will tell you straight up what to expect and what we expect AND now with EFI systems encroaching on our area of the 700 plus horsepower performance market with these false promises, we feel its time to show who the boss really is.... its time to put our money where our mouth is with a NO EXCUSES guarantee. Here it is... plain and simple.
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    The sv1 is just a big aerosol isnt it? I read a yb blowthru thread about them awhile back and they seemed to be working well.

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    Pat really putting it out there with that. I replied to it on FB. He said N/A only. Excellent marketing plan

    Theres always a hybrid system. EFI and manual combined. Fuel goes in the same spot as with a carb. along with the EFI
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    For sure a cool deal ron!
    Ill stick to carbs personally, gets what i need done. For boost i think efi is the way to go for really high hp stuff but hass and a few others have proved a blowthru carb can be consistent enough in qe without having to be really pushed to their max flow capabilities. From what ive herd hass runs qe at he still has hp left in his 4150 carb to go faster.
    Id like to build a daytona with a built 408ls tt methanol carbd deal for qe at some point soon, may take me a yr to get on the water. About to start looking for a boat. Got custody of my sons in dec and a huge monthly raise jan 1 lol.

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    Sounds like a last cry to keep the carb alive. I know people will still use them however EFI is a lot more affordable these days for a DIY. The capabilities to quickly change fuel or spark at the click of a button. I'm sure this was an argument when people moved away from points to electronic ignition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by roughneck427 View Post
    Sounds like a last cry to keep the carb alive.

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    Lmao,, Hardly!!! The top carb shops are having a hard time keeping up with demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hass828 View Post
    Lmao,, Hardly!!! The top carb shops are having a hard time keeping up with demand.
    Don't get me wrong carbs are great and they will never go away. but I think the marketing and claims are overreaching


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    I got lucky enough to find a new dizzy with brand new points. The electronic kits weren't worth shit except money. Maybe great on cars? but not my heavy boat. Have a link to send my brand new Holley 850DP for fine tuning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uniboarder View Post
    I got lucky enough to find a new dizzy with brand new points. The electronic kits weren't worth shit except money. Maybe great on cars? but not my heavy boat. Have a link to send my brand new Holley 850DP for fine tuning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by roughneck427 View Post
    Don't get me wrong carbs are great and they will never go away. but I think the marketing and claims are overreaching


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    EFI has always had trouble making more power than a properly tuned carb. Many-many examples out there.
    Interesting read on the subject- Pro Systems - Under The Scoop


    That being said, they both have thier pros & cons. Matter of personal preference.
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    I've been enjoying the Holley HP EFI. It is easy to understand. I like the fine tuning abilities and the various "add on" system controls it offers all in one package.
    I think you should try EFI and give us a firm comparison on your boat Hass. It would give you something new to play with. You never know, you may get surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    I've been enjoying the Holley HP EFI. It is easy to understand. I like the fine tuning abilities and the various "add on" system controls it offers all in one package.
    I think you should try EFI and give us a firm comparison on your boat Hass. It would give you something new to play with. You never know, you may get surprised

    408 ls single, turning a B 7000 at 16psi
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    I would like to do that some day, would be expensive swap.

    Sounds like you have your deal running pretty sweet!
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    I've seen that, its a sales vid for thier efi system- they try to make it look like you just toss the carb- bolt on the efi- plug it in & your done. They dont mention the fuel system upgrades that are necessary. EFI didnt stack up so good initially did it? Wonder just how many novice guys could have figured out what the problem was? EFI would have probably ended up thrown in the corner and another EFI hater added to the ranks.
    Would be interesting to see how a carb from a reputable shop would have done instead of just an "out of the box" unit.

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    I would one day like to try EFI just to form my own unbiased opinion. I will say this, everyone talks about just how easy efi is to tune, and I'm sure it is- all with a few strokes of the keys, BUT every one of my buddies that mess with that stuff spend more hrs with that laptop open in one season(even after it supposedly "in tune") than time I would working with racing my carb for 10yrs.
    I've had a couple unforseen little problems with my carb too though. Not the carbs fault, was builders fault.
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