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    Default Recommended Oil for HP Hyd Roller lifters.....

    At Straub Technologies we have been working with several oil companies over the last 2 years to give the consumer an oil that functions the best with hyd roller lifters. Because Morels tolerances are so tight they need an oil that not only lubricates the engine but functions as a hydraulic oil.

    After testing we will now recommend running Driven Oil for all hyd roller engines.
    Here is a note from Lake Speed Jr:

    Chris,

    Sorry so long to get back to you. It has been one of those days...

    It was great chatting with you about hydraulic roller lifters in high-performance engines and how oil viscosity plays a significant role in the performance of the lifter. Many people seem to miss the fact that oil is a hydraulic fluid in these engines, and these lifters require the correct viscosity hydraulic fluid to function properly. And there are many factors that affect the viscosity of an oil once it's been in the engine for a while. All of this comes together to make the choice of oil a very important factor for a high-performance, hydraulic roller lifter engine.

    At Straub Technologies we have done extensive testing with several engine builders and parts manufacturing companies to determine the correct viscosity and formulas to provide the best performance for hydraulic roller lifters.

    Extensive engine testing in both race engines and street engines has confirmed that a 10W–40 viscosity grade provides better hydraulic lifter performance than 30 grades or 50 grade motor oils. As a result of this testing, here are the oils that we recommend for high-performance, hydraulic roller lifter engines.

    Break-in: BR40 (part number 03706)
    Hot Rod/Show Car: HR5 (part number 03806)
    Street performance: HR6 (part number 03906)

    Driven is not sold in Walmart but can be bought at local speed shops and some online vendors.

    One unique additive the I really love about this oil is the use a chemical compound developed in WWII that prevents corrosion during long periods of storage. Most of our Hot Rods sit, so the added factor that the oil provide protection to your engine during long periods of storage is a huge plus.
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    Scott, would that hold for a flat hydraulic as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol guy View Post
    Scott, would that hold for a flat hydraulic as well?
    Yes. I don't see why not other than a lot of lifters don't have the tolerances that the Morel's do and might "like" heavier oil. I think all three of those oils are flat tappet rated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott foxwell;

    Extensive engine testing in both race engines and street engines has confirmed that a 10W–40 viscosity grade provides better hydraulic lifter performance than 30 grades or 50 grade motor oils. As a result of this testing, here are the oils that we recommend for high-performance, hydraulic roller lifter engines.

    Break-in: BR40 (part number 03706)
    Hot Rod/Show Car: HR5 (part number 03806)
    Street performance: HR6 (part number 03906)
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    Isn't this a boating site?? What about a boat engine running Morel Hydraulics?

    Oil viscosity doesn't only pertain to lifters... There's a couple other parts in an engine you know. What would be the effects of running a 10-40 oil in a lake boat? Merc recommends 20-50 in a lot of their stuff... At least they used to.




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    Quote Originally Posted by scott foxwell View Post
    Yes. I don't see why not other than a lot of lifters don't have the tolerances that the Morel's do and might "like" heavier oil. I think all three of those oils are flat tappet rated.
    Thank you Scott. I have ran kendall on alcohol engines and VR-1 on gas engines 40wt. so now I am probably going to retrain the brain for other oils or bring back a case each time I go to arizona. Mark

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    Are hyd lifters still taboo in the hp boating world? I just went against the grain and had a pump gas (hydraulic) roller motor built for a jet river racer/ drag application. I went hyd after reading some of Foxwells builds that put up very good results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdream'n View Post
    Are hyd lifters still taboo in the hp boating world? I just went against the grain and had a pump gas (hydraulic) roller motor built for a jet river racer/ drag application.
    Nothing wrong with hyd. rollers in a boat engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott foxwell View Post
    Nothing wrong with hyd. rollers in a boat engine.
    I believe you are a master at your craft. I've been following your recommendation.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

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    Quote Originally Posted by 28Eliminator View Post
    Isn't this a boating site??
    Why, yes it is!
    Quote Originally Posted by 28Eliminator View Post
    What about a boat engine running Morel Hydraulics?
    What about it?
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    Oil viscosity doesn't only pertain to lifters... There's a couple other parts in an engine you know.
    Do tell!
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    What would be the effects of running a 10-40 oil in a lake boat?
    I guess I'd have to know more about the engine.
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    Merc recommends 20-50 in a lot of their stuff... At least they used to.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdream'n View Post
    I believe you are a master at your craft. I've been following your recommendation.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott foxwell View Post
    Why, yes it is!
    What about it?
    Do tell!
    I guess I'd have to know more about the engine.
    OK.
    I thought I was asking a legitimate question...

    I learned a lot from you Scott, bought parts from you, talked to you on the phone about parts and ideas, even discussed mutual friends. Sorry to have bothered you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 28Eliminator View Post
    I thought I was asking a legitimate question...

    I learned a lot from you Scott, bought parts from you, talked to you on the phone about parts and ideas, even discussed mutual friends. Sorry to have bothered you.


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    Not a bother, just sounded more like you were challenging the information rather than asking a question. I answered your questions;
    You asked, "what about a boat engine running Morel hydraulics?". Not sure what you're asking. What about it?
    The only other relevant question was about the effects of running 10w40 in a lake boat. That's just too vague to answer or even comment on. Like I said, I'd have to know a lot more about the engine.
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    What would you run on a naturally asperated alky motor running solid lifters...
    It's a dry sump deal
    Just curious on what you think thanks!!

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    Scott,
    So my only thought to being in a marine application would be aeration. Have you seen one oil show better results in resisting aeration than another? Knowing that marine or endurance application suffer with this and that the fact that it causes issues with hydraulic lifters I just had to ask if you knew anything about it. I heard it talked about that somebodies oil was formulated to resist aeration (which surprised me) so I figured I would ask you as you and Chris are in the know.

    Paul

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