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    Soooo I'm trying to wrap up all the last minute chit today, among a few other things, I was going to put my anodes in place of the block drain plugs. Driver side no problemo, spin what I think is the drain plug out of the other side and??? I dunno maybe there is block filler in there or some thing. Would/should a mark iv tall deck have drain plugs on both sides??(un-modified) Then it's time for the dipstick now that the headers are going in...that was easy enough, pull the dipstick out..wtf.. no oil??? Freaked out I pull the tube out, stick the dipstick it's self in(until it hits the bottom of the pan) and there is about 2.25" of oil in the bottom of the pan. That doesn't sound right does it? Does a tall block require a special(longer) dipstick? Edit; there is 4" of oil in the bottom, not 2.25", it wants to hang up before the bottom of the pan.
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    If I am understanding you correctly.......

    You pulled the drain plug out and no water came out?

    Just stick a long nail in there and dislodge the rust or mud/crap that's settled at the bottom of the block.
    If this is the case, you may want to run the engine with one or both plugs out to flush all the crap out. It's going to make a mess but if you don't the junk in there is going to bury the annode and make it useless.

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    Sorry, to clarify not only didn't water come out, I can't even poke a small allen wrench in there,it's solid. The water plug on the drivers side sits level, the pass. side it's flush with the side of the block(points down on an angle). It appears there is only one drain?? I'm a little more concerned with the oil level/dipstick deal, but was curious about both.
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    Hey, I never believe a dipstick.....put the amount of oil you are supposed to put in with that pan....check the dipstick and mark it at whatever point it has oil on it. You should be able to cut the tube if need be. Dipstick is in the same location on short and tall decks if this helps.

    Pull the plug and give it a poke like Jim said....drain on both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H20MOFO View Post
    Sorry, to clarify not only didn't water come out, I can't even poke a small allen wrench in there,it's solid. The water plug on the drivers side sits level, the pass. side it's flush with the side of the block(points down on an angle). It appears there is only one drain?? I'm a little more concerned with the oil level/dipstick deal, but was curious about both.
    I think if you keep looking you might find "another" drain. Should be straight out like the other.
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    You'd think there would be one on both sides, I'll try to put up a pic or 2. the driver side has a bunch of allen plugs below the anode on the drivers side. On the pass side the only allen plug is there above the dipstick hole.
    As far as the oil goes I'm kinda sucking wind there, 8 qts is what I put in it with the 427(to be happy on the dip stick). I don't even know what brand the pan is.
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    The "bunch of plugs" on the driver's/left-hand side, all go into the pan-rail oil gallery, except the slightly ofset one in the center. It is into the coolant jacket, and one on the other side matches it.
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    There is only one plug on the passenger side and here is the best pic I can get of it, It's got to be block filler, it sits lower than the one on the other side.
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    Where would you guys recommend I stick the pass side anode?? Pull a freeze plug or(yes I know I would need to cut off the brass part.lol)??? I assume the one in the drivers side will do little or nothing for the passenger side.
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    The dipstick might not be getting though the hole in the windage tray. If it misses the hole it will curve on top of the tray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H20MOFO View Post
    You'd think there would be one on both sides, I'll try to put up a pic or 2. the driver side has a bunch of allen plugs below the anode on the drivers side. On the pass side the only allen plug is there above the dipstick hole.
    As far as the oil goes I'm kinda sucking wind there, 8 qts is what I put in it with the 427(to be happy on the dip stick). I don't even know what brand the pan is.

    in the small pic that looks like a small bowtie ?? bowtie tall deck. you may have a filled block there.you will have to find out if it's a short fill or high fill. if your water pump holes are still open you may be able to check there- worse case you could pop a freeze plug and ck. if it is filled just drill a hole in a new brass freeze plug and braze a water drain plug and re-install freeze plug

    as far as the oil fill it for the first time and mark your dipstick as to the full mark, like sanger rat said you may be catching on the windage tray a little as far as you dip stick goes. good luck roger

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    I like the freeze plug idea alot, thanks. The big pic is the side that I was able to screw in fine. The small pic is the pass. side that I couldn't because of... I guess block filler. As far as the windage tray, it wouldnt clear my 4.375 stroke crank, so it's laying on the work bench.(yes I need a new/better pan)
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    If it were me I would get a pan before I ran it at the lake.
    an incorrect pan is a good way to trash a engine.
    and remember to determine the full level before you bolt it up. IMO
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    what kind of drive is it? v-drive?

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