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    So Im sure everyone is aware the highway use oils have been stripped of all the good stuff for enviornmental reasons and for use modern cars with cats.

    Saw some results on some "Racing" Royal Purple oil vs. the stuff you find at pep boys "highway use oils" and thought you guys might be interested in this. They basically took half of the good stuff out.

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    Highway use RP

    Molybdenum...112
    Calcium…....1883
    Magnesium..1055
    Phosphorus…611
    Zinc……….…725

    Racing RP

    Calcium = 3039
    Phosphorus = 1338
    Zinc = 1421
    Moly = 204
    TBN = 10.9
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    Just checked pricing on RP Racing oil vs. street oil and its pretty much double the price.
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    Red Line is about a buck more a quart than the RP highway stuff. Do you have any numbers on the RL??
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    Nothing yet, Im working on it. There is a lab that will test it for you.

    The racing oil costs 200 bucks per oil change for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs19 View Post
    Nothing yet, Im working on it. There is a lab that will test it for you.

    The racing oil costs 200 bucks per oil change for me.
    Chris, what oil are you running and how many hours do you run before you change it out ?? Synthetic ???

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    synthetic regular 5w30 redline, I always add EOS to bump up the zinc levels though. Ill go about 2 river trips and one race then change it. Ive been changing the filter every outing cause Ive been cutting it open to see whats going on in inside. I need an oberg bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs19 View Post
    synthetic regular 5w30 redline, I always add EOS to bump up the zinc levels though. Ill go about 2 river trips and one race then change it. Ive been changing the filter every outing cause Ive been cutting it open to see whats going on in inside. I need an oberg bad.
    How much of that EOS are you adding ? I was changing mine every 3 trips, and being lazy about the filter until I dropped the oil, but I should probably start paying better attention to this next one !

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    Not taking one side or the other here, or trying to promote a product...just thought this was interesting.
    http://www.oilsandlube.com/oil-additives.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    Not taking one side or the other here, or trying to promote a product...just thought this was interesting.
    http://www.oilsandlube.com/oil-additives.htm
    Clearly there's a problem with flat tappet engines and valve train related failured because of the oil changes. It's no secret...makes me wonder what the guys at Amsoil are thinking.

    From what I know, about .5 -.66 oz/qt of EOS should do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    From what I know, about .5 -.66 oz/qt of EOS should do it.
    Do what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs19 View Post
    Nothing yet, Im working on it. There is a lab that will test it for you.

    The racing oil costs 200 bucks per oil change for me.
    Chris I read where you change your oil after two river trip's and one race weekend......Wow @ $200. per oil change you must have money to burn.

    Why do you change your oil so often ? I agree with you, you need an Omberg filter, are you getting metal or lot's of water condensation in your oil ?

    I just don't see the need to change it so often...... there must be a better way. Do you ever get it to 200-220 and run it for an extended period of time to burn the condensation out of it ? I talked to a GM engineer at the Baja 1,000 one year, he was one of the guy's that did GM's heat soak testing before they decided to put Mobil 1 in the Vett engine's. He told me that as long as we got the oil hot enough to burn the condensation out of it that I could leave the Mobil 1 in our engine for year's. I think one year we put 50+ hrs. on the engine. That's alot of racing,skiing and river running back and forth 14-20 miles up river.

    You may have seen my post from last week where I stated that I can't afford Red Line so I run Mobil 1. The same GM Engineer and I had a very long talk about Red Line, Motul, Amzoil and Mobil 1. I was at SEMA a few year's ago sitting at a table eating lunch and a guy walks up to the table and asked if I mind if he has a seat to eat his lunch and he happened to be a Motul rep. We had a great conversation about oil.

    Maybe I need to sponsor you on an Omberg ?

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    does anybody have the eos p# , i can't find it in our gm catalogs at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
    Chris I read where you change your oil after two river trip's and one race weekend......Wow @ $200. per oil change you must have money to burn.

    Why do you change your oil so often ? I agree with you, you need an Omberg filter, are you getting metal or lot's of water condensation in your oil ?

    I just don't see the need to change it so often...... there must be a better way. Do you ever get it to 200-220 and run it for an extended period of time to burn the condensation out of it ? I talked to a GM engineer at the Baja 1,000 one year, he was one of the guy's that did GM's heat soak testing before they decided to put Mobil 1 in the Vett engine's. He told me that as long as we got the oil hot enough to burn the condensation out of it that I could leave the Mobil 1 in our engine for year's. I think one year we put 50 on the engine. That's alot of racing,skiing and river running back and forth 14-20 miles up river.

    You may have seen my post from last week where I stated that I can't afford Red Line so I run Mobil 1. The same GM Engineer and I had a very long talk about Red Line, Motul, Amzoil and Mobil 1. I was at SEMA a few year's ago sitting at a table eating lunch and a guy walks up to the table and asked if I mind if he has a seat to eat his lunch and he happened to be a Motul rep. We had a great conversation about oil.

    Maybe I need to sponsor you on an Omberg ?
    Very high valve spring pressure is his main reason behind it all.
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