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    Quote Originally Posted by One More Year View Post
    The only blab's I will even be a part of is just when it is me they are talking about. Aaaah yes I can see a few good looking shiny tall deck motors on the beach, with barely enough fuel to get back to the launch saying, "Holy crap how fast you think that Daytona was going man? That's like the 20th time he's gone by today?"
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    Well I see it a threat if you open the bottle and let it out and if you believe in global warming. Once N2O is burnt in an engine, it comes out as H2O if I'm right. It's no longer N2O anyway.

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    FYi,

    For you non-political types this is why voting for the "right" people is important. The entire Man Made Global Warming arguement is really about Control,Power and Choices. In all three We as the individual will loose and the Government will gain. To the Enviro-Nazis Man Made Global Warming is a religion and they will push it on everyone.

    If Nos isn't outlawed it will be taxed. Keep in mind that C02 emissions that are supposed to be responsible for Global Warming are only 4 parts per 10,000 in the atmosphere.Do any of you really believe that a substance that is .0004% of the total atmosphere will change the earth? The Enviro's are "F" ing wack jobs.

    You heard it hear first...be prepared for a Carbon Tax on your boating fun.

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    I mostly lurk and learn here. Thanks for the education guys! I am moved to comment by the serious nature of this thread. The power/ control issue is the primary motivation behind this and many other liberal concerns. Maintaining sovergnty in the face of these international treaties is of paramount concern. Treaties are the easiest way to bypass Constitutional safeguards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
    FYi,

    For you non-political types this is why voting for the "right" people is important. The entire Man Made Global Warming arguement is really about Control,Power and Choices. In all three We as the individual will loose and the Government will gain. To the Enviro-Nazis Man Made Global Warming is a religion and they will push it on everyone.

    If Nos isn't outlawed it will be taxed. Keep in mind that C02 emissions that are supposed to be responsible for Global Warming are only 4 parts per 10,000 in the atmosphere.Do any of you really believe that a substance that is .0004% of the total atmosphere will change the earth? The Enviro's are "F" ing wack jobs.

    You heard it hear first...be prepared for a Carbon Tax on your boating fun.

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    That is if you believe global warming and Al G. They already proved Global warming is full of sh*t. And as for Al, well i'm sure most reading this have figured that one out.
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    Normally, I wouldn't post anything on a thread like this, but since the subject has been mentioned:

    Anyone living in CA that was born here 58 years ago like I was doesn't need AG to tell them that Global Warming is a FACT. The weather pattern here has changed 90 degrees from what it was, and is continuing to change.

    The Earth is continually evolving and changing, as are it's ecosystems. We, as a species, are lucky to have had 10,000 or so years of peace and quiet with the climate. This allowed our civilization to evolve into what it is today.

    Our signature as a planet/weather changer is EVERYWHERE, and unfortunately, like the Titanic, the course that our fingerprints will take cannot be changed/stopped quickly. Even if the Carbon emissions were cut to ZERO, TODAY, the Earth would continue to warm for the next 200 years or so until the Carbon compounds/particulates were are brought back to a stable level.

    Given the fact that as the Earth warms, MORE NATURAL emissions will be realeased in the form of Carbon and Methane, the generations of our great-great Grandchildren and their progeny will be in for a life completely unlike ours(probably not to many JetBoats!).

    That is the sad FACT, and will cost billions a change in lifetstyle, and probably millions an end to life via the manifestations of the change.

    Those that live in denial should empower themselves with information, and some common sense about Global Warming.

    As far as Nitrous, it's impact is insignificant, as is Motorsports in general. The main contributors to Carbon emissions/pollution are regulated/unregulated Industry, and Agriculture.

    That's all I have for now.

    I DO burn C-12, but balance it by driving a Prius, using 100% Flourescent lighting and recycling 98% of my Garbage. I also like Trees..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRacer View Post
    Normally, I wouldn't post anything on a thread like this, but since the subject has been mentioned:

    Anyone living in CA that was born here 58 years ago like I was doesn't need AG to tell them that Global Warming is a FACT. The weather pattern here has changed 90 degrees from what it was, and is continuing to change.

    The Earth is continually evolving and changing, as are it's ecosystems. We, as a species, are lucky to have had 10,000 or so years of peace and quiet with the climate. This allowed our civilization to evolve into what it is today.

    Our signature as a planet/weather changer is EVERYWHERE, and unfortunately, like the Titanic, the course that our fingerprints will take cannot be changed/stopped quickly. Even if the Carbon emissions were cut to ZERO, TODAY, the Earth would continue to warm for the next 200 years or so until the Carbon compounds/particulates were are brought back to a stable level.

    Given the fact that as the Earth warms, MORE NATURAL emissions will be released in the form of Carbon and Methane, the generations of our great-great Grandchildren and their progeny will be in for a life completely unlike ours(probably not to many JetBoats!).

    That is the sad FACT, and will cost billions a change in lifetstyle, and probably millions an end to life via the manifestations of the change.

    Those that live in denial should empower themselves with information, and some common sense about Global Warming.

    As far as Nitrous, it's impact is insignificant, as is Motorsports in general. The main contributors to Carbon emissions/pollution are regulated/unregulated Industry, and Agriculture.

    That's all I have for now.

    I DO burn C-12, but balance it by driving a Prius, using 100% Fluorescent lighting and recycling 98% of my Garbage. I also like Trees..................

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    Dennis,

    I've never said this before ,but you my friend are full of crap. Your Prius isn't going to save the planet and my 565" engine isn't going to kill it , nor is the 5,000 hp fleet of heavy equipment my family owns going to kill it either, but that's hard to get across to the State of Kalifornia.

    Man made Global Warming is a fraud. Every and I mean every computer model that shows MMGW just so happens to not include the solar cycles of the sun. The over all temp of the Earth has been declining the past few years. One thing is true that you stated...The Climate changes... it would do that with or without us we as humane beings are "nearly" insignificant in the modern scheme of things. We are doing much better than we did in 1950-1978 to pick a period in time.

    BTW those florescent light bulbs you use are worst off for the environment then standard light bulbs. They do use less power and last longer but the process of making them including the mercury is very very bad for the environment.

    If you think MMGW is so bad you and the children should park your boats.

    As far as this statement:
    Those that live in denial should empower themselves with information, and some common sense about Global Warming.

    Are you aware of the last report done by the EPA in which the anaylist determined GW was done and over and the earth has been cooling for several years and will continue to cool until the next active period of the sun. That report was quashed by the Administration and the EPA did not release it.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06...y5117890.shtml

    You may what to acquaint yourself with the comments of Mr. Michael Griffin, head of NASA:

    In an interview with NPR's Steve Inskeep that will air in Thursday's edition of NPR News' Morning Edition, Administrator Griffin explains: "I guess I would ask which human beings - where and when - are to be accorded the privilege of deciding that this particular climate that we have right here today, right now is the best climate for all other human beings. I think that's a rather arrogant position for people to take."

    MICHAEL GRIFFIN: I am aware that global warming -- I'm aware that global warming exists. I understand that the bulk of scientific evidence accumulated supports the claim that we've had about a one degree centigrade rise in temperature over the last century to within an accuracy of 20 percent.

    "I'm also aware of recent findings that appear to have nailed down -- pretty well nailed down the conclusion that much of that is man made. Whether that is a long term concern or not, I can't say."

    The above is a half truth as he is or should be aware of the exclusion of the solar activity from major three MMGW computer models. He should also be aware of the fact that when the Vikings where exploring from 600- 1,000 AD the earths climate was warmer then than it is now. The Vikings sailed their wooden boats places that have now been covered with Ice for a few Centuries and along with the Romans planted wheat and other grain crops that will no longer grow in those regions because it's to COLD.

    His entire interview:
    http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NA...oblem_999.html

    I'm sorry Dennis but I'm not going to freak out about 1* (cent) over the past 100 years when I find out the top three computer models purposely exclude the solar activity along with the fact that many of the same people who are pushing this pushed " The coming of the next Ice Age" 28 years ago when I was in High School.

    You might find this enlightening:

    UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

    Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History'

    The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...0-274616db87e6

    Dennis I have empowered myself with information and have come to the conclusion that:

    Man Made Global Warming is a crock of shit.... it is a Religion to people whom just don't know better.


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    P.s. If you haven't figured it out from this post I've studied more than your average person on the MMGW argument, my industry will be greatly affected by any future carbon tax. It's all just about the government and people like that POS Al Gore making money off of it. The Government wants to restrict your choices and freedoms that's what this is about.
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    WHAT no Charts Sleeper Now I know RR is a DUMBA$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    WHAT no Charts Sleeper

    Charts and graphs can be found here, I didn't have time to copy and paste to Photobucket. This is a random web page that has the last info from NASA you can find it on dozens of web-sites:

    "The inconvertible fact, here is that even NASA's own study acknowledges that solar variation has caused climate change in the past. And even the study's members, mostly ardent supports of AGW theory, acknowledge that the sun may play a significant role in future climate changes"

    http://robertd.wordpress.com/2009/06...armingcooling/

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    I won't say you're ignorant, Jon. I'll just say you're in denial(like most conservatives tend to be about a GREAT MANY things).

    All of 650(out of tens of thousands) bought and paid for 'SCIENTISTS', huh?? No Religious fanatics or pseudo intellectuals in there tied to the military-industrial complex, eh Jon??

    Any Nobel Laureates in there, Jon???

    You're playing to an audience filled with ringers here, Jon. Too bad we won't be here to see the end game where NO ONE WINS against mother nature.

    You wouldn't hear me say, I TOLD you so, Jon. Or would you??

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    who gives a rats ass about all that shitits all about taking away things we Americans enjoy to do.having somebody tell us when to shit and eat and drink is next in line.our government sucks ass as far as im concerned.

    but im a redneck hillbilly
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRacer View Post
    I won't say you're ignorant, Jon. I'll just say you're in denial(like most conservatives tend to be about a GREAT MANY things).

    All of 650(out of tens of thousands) bought and paid for 'SCIENTISTS', huh?? No Religious fanatics or pseudo intellectuals in there tied to the military-industrial complex, eh Jon??

    Any Nobel Laureates in there, Jon???

    You're playing to an audience filled with ringers here, Jon. Too bad we won't be here to see the end game where NO ONE WINS against mother nature.

    You wouldn't hear me say, I TOLD you so, Jon. Or would you??

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    All bought and paid for,,,, LoL Gore lost several of his one time supporters because the science doesn't play out the way Gore and others have set it up. Do you think Gore is doing this out of the goodness of his heart or to increase his bank account?

    As far as the Nobel Laureates.. do you realize how many of them have been wrong in the past? Quite a few about some important subjects.

    Dennis my biggest point is the earth's climate has changed and will continue to change with or without us. Do you really believe that C02 emissions that make up .0004% (4 / 10,000) of the atmosphere can change the Climate ?

    Do you not remember the next Ice Age scare from 28-30 yrs ago. I do Dennis and many of the "scientist" who signed up for that have signed up for this because of government grant money. You want to mention "bought and paid for" take a look at the grant money these guy's and schools (Berkley,Cal-Poly,MIT,Columbia,Harvard) are collecting from the government. Yep ....bought and paid for Dennis.

    I'll line up with the experts I read about and you can choose yours, here are three more of the guys who know a hell of a lot more than Gore does on this subject:

    Lord Christopher Monckton:
    http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...303154249.aspx

    Timothy Ball:
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/...ming020507.htm

    John Coleman:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922411/posts

    http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemans.../38574742.html

    Open your eyes Dennis and quit being a "Sheeple".

    As far as taking care of the planet goes... our family owned business recycles in excess of 200,000 tons of inert materials a year. I do my fair share of caring for the planet.

    BTW, it really doesn't matter because we're done for in 2012. Have fun while you can.

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