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    Default Enderle Alcohol Injection T-Tank / Side Tank Help

    How do you rig the plumbing for a Side Tank to a T-Tank on a alcohol lake boat deal ?

    I am already set up and running alcohol from a T-Tank with Enderle Injection. I am needing to add a side tank to fill with extra Alcohol since i can't run very far with a 5 gallon T-Tank. Will i need bypass lines from the T tank to dump excess fuel back to the side tank also?

    I already have a side tank with a fill opening and a bottom fuel feed and 2 other female fittings on top, how should this be plumbed to the T-Tank, i have no extra bungs not in use on the T-Tank also.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated diagrams or pics would be nice.
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    Not positive on the alcohol but if you're going to fill the t-tank with a block pump you will need a minimum -10 from the side tank to the pump and -10 from the block pump to the t tank.

    The overflow from the t-tank to the side tank should be a minimum -12 and probably a -16. I run two -12 overflows from my bullet tank to two side tanks and a friend of mine runs two -16's from his t-tank to his side tanks. Both setups on gas. With one overflow I'd definitely go with -16. Check with Jim at Enderle to make sure.

    You'll need to add the appropriate bungs to the t and side tank.
    Do you mean you have a fitting on the side tank that picks up from the bottom of the tank (CG approved)? Or a fitting that's right at the bottom of the tank? The top fitting bottom pickup tube will be too restrictive especially for alky I think they are -6 inside,

    How big is your side tank?

    I don't get very far with the bullett tank and two ten gallon side tanks and that's on gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 500BBC View Post
    Not positive on the alcohol but if you're going to fill the t-tank with a block pump you will need a minimum -10 from the side tank to the pump and -10 from the block pump to the t tank.

    The overflow from the t-tank to the side tank should be a minimum -12 and probably a -16. I run two -12 overflows from my bullet tank to two side tanks and a friend of mine runs two -16's from his t-tank to his side tanks. Both setups on gas. With one overflow I'd definitely go with -16. Check with Jim at Enderle to make sure.

    You'll need to add the appropriate bungs to the t and side tank.
    Do you mean you have a fitting on the side tank that picks up from the bottom of the tank (CG approved)? Or a fitting that's right at the bottom of the tank? The top fitting bottom pickup tube will be too restrictive especially for alky I think they are -6 inside,

    How big is your side tank?

    I don't get very far with the bullett tank and two ten gallon side tanks and that's on gas.
    The Side tank i was planning on using is a 9.5 gallon russel it has a bottom mounted feed fuel outlet, but on top of the tank on the end above the fuel outlet it has 2 threaded holes 3/8" or so with allen head plugs currently in the holes ?

    As far as the T-Tank when i order the new one i need to add bungs when ordering? and where should they be added at?

    As far as the ENDERLE i am using, it is a 3 hole hat with alcohol being injected at the base of each cylinder runner on the base of the tunnel ram intake..........

    Thanks for the information
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    Quote Originally Posted by dry View Post
    How do you rig the plumbing for a Side Tank to a T-Tank on a alcohol lake boat deal ?

    I am already set up and running alcohol from a T-Tank with Enderle Injection. I am needing to add a side tank to fill with extra Alcohol since i can't run very far with a 5 gallon T-Tank. Will i need bypass lines from the T tank to dump excess fuel back to the side tank also?

    I already have a side tank with a fill opening and a bottom fuel feed and 2 other female fittings on top, how should this be plumbed to the T-Tank, i have no extra bungs not in use on the T-Tank also.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated diagrams or pics would be nice.
    I've seen a few guys actually mount a holley fuel bowl on the side of the tank so that the float will keep the tank full, and no return.

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    Don,

    I always just plumb in a Holley Blue to transfer fuel with. I stand there and do it instead of having it do it's own thing. I have never driven farther than a "T" tank full of fuel anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hass828 View Post
    I've seen a few guys actually mount a holley fuel bowl on the side of the tank so that the float will keep the tank full, and no return.
    Heres your pic. Be careful pumping. the volume and pressure are two commonly misinterpreted terms of how they work together
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    Don,

    I always just plumb in a Holley Blue to transfer fuel with. I stand there and do it instead of having it do it's own thing. I have never driven farther than a "T" tank full of fuel anyway.

    Agreed a 5 gallon T-tank and 9.5 Russel with a tunnel ram injection im assuming, mercy thats running for quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Heres your pic. Be careful pumping. the volume and pressure are two commonly misinterpreted terms of how they work together
    Thats what I was looking for , thanks.
    Shouldn't that bowl be mounted higher on the tank so it would keep the tank a little more full and give more volume to work with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    Don,

    I always just plumb in a Holley Blue to transfer fuel with. I stand there and do it instead of having it do it's own thing. I have never driven farther than a "T" tank full of fuel anyway.
    Ron,
    Did you also use a return line or just a fill line? Also can it be T'd somewhere in a line on the T -Tank or will i need another bung?

    Thanks everybody for there input...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Heres your pic. Be careful pumping. the volume and pressure are two commonly misinterpreted terms of how they work together
    Very Nice pic! Was wondering why my tank had two Holley bowls on it for my Crower unit! Gonne prolly bug the snot outta you when I get this boat and engine ready to finally run (Prolly next spring).

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    How far can u go on 5 gal of alcohol ?

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    Dry this is an easy program. Forget holley float bowls etc... waste of time & money. Take your bullet tank & put a 3/4" pipe bung about 1/4 of the way down from the top of the tank. Put another 3/4" bung in the top of your russel side tank. Use a #12 line as a "spill back" between the 2 tanks. You can use a mechanical or electric transfer pump. A holley blue is more than enough. A #8 fuel feed is plenty to keep the bullet tank full. Use a 3/8" bung near the top of the tank for the fuel supply intake. What most forget is you are not running WOT the whole time & the recovery from the transfer pump is pretty damn quick. I run a holley blue on my Blown Gas 540 with a #8 feed & a #10 drain back. It actually creats a siphon & will keep the level even. My injector tank is 8 gal & with 2-25 gal side tanks. I have cross overs on the feed & return. Works very well. Also make sure you have good venting on both tanks. This system will work really well for you & is a piece of cake.

    This is a shot of my set up. On the right of the tank is the #8 fuel feed, & on the left is the #10 drain back. You can see the height of each line.

    Also another trick that is nice for a lake deal... Add a slight restriction (valve or sleeve in the fitting at the tank) to the inlet on the bullet tank to create a little back psi. Put a tee & a run a line to the dash where you can install a 15 psi gauge. You only need a couple of pounds showing so when the tank runs dry the gauge will drop to zero. Better than a fuel tank gauge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIMUS View Post
    Dry this is an easy program. Forget holley float bowls etc... waste of time & money. Take your bullet tank & put a 3/4" pipe bung about 1/4 of the way down from the top of the tank. Put another 3/4" bung in the top of your russel side tank. Use a #12 line as a "spill back" between the 2 tanks. You can use a mechanical or electric transfer pump. A holley blue is more than enough. A #8 fuel feed is plenty to keep the bullet tank full. Use a 3/8" bung near the top of the tank for the fuel supply intake. What most forget is you are not running WOT the whole time & the recovery from the transfer pump is pretty damn quick. I run a holley blue on my Blown Gas 540 with a #8 feed & a #10 drain back. It actually creats a siphon & will keep the level even. My injector tank is 8 gal & with 2-25 gal side tanks. I have cross overs on the feed & return. Works very well. Also make sure you have good venting on both tanks. This system will work really well for you & is a piece of cake.

    This is a shot of my set up. On the right of the tank is the #8 fuel feed, & on the left is the #10 drain back. You can see the height of each line.

    Also another trick that is nice for a lake deal... Add a slight restriction (valve or sleeve in the fitting at the tank) to the inlet on the bullet tank to create a little back psi. Put a tee & a run a line to the dash where you can install a 15 psi gauge. You only need a couple of pounds showing so when the tank runs dry the gauge will drop to zero. Better than a fuel tank gauge.
    Thanks for all the input and suggestions, BUT can you tell me where i can get one of those INJECTOR HAT COVERS you have on your INJECTOR HAT IN THE PIC? Is that one of those POLISHED BEAVER made in the USA brands in the pic!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dry View Post
    Thanks for all the input and suggestions, BUT can you tell me where i can get one of those INJECTOR HAT COVERS you have on your INJECTOR HAT IN THE PIC? Is that one of those POLISHED BEAVER made in the USA brands in the pic!!!

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    All right the cover is way over budget. I suggest you stick with a more conventional set up. In the long run you will be dollars ahead!

    That was the only good pick I had of the lines...

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