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    In Jon's thread about his oil leak there was discussion about kickouts and sumps with some confusion that GN7 corrected. When you get your latest issue of Performance Boats look to page 80 and new products. Rex Marine is a MWD for our product and pictured in the top photo is one of our offshore pans. This shot is taken from rear of the pan and to the right just below the pan rail you can see the pan is extended out past the rail while being flush with the rail surface. This is a full kickout pan with a starter notch to allow for a std block mounted starter. For those with tranny mount/ remote mount starters this notch is not done and that is a full kickout pan.

    Now this is a T type sump that most are familar with but we bevel the bottom of the pan to provide better oil control back to the pick up and also to help with windage reduction.

    The offshore pan we offer for any block made.
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    Mine has the starter notch too, I know a full kick-out is better but I wasn't going to buy a top mount starter:





    The old pan:



    Chris thanks again for the fix on the pan, I'll get with you on it. I do think a bead of silicone may have prevented the problem, we'll see this weekend.

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    so how much oil do you put in it? My 10 qt. pan im putting in 8 qrts. Im going to upgrade to a stephs or might even go with the B&B pan. Same pan just one is steel right? do they come with the pick up?

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    That's a nice piece you have there Sleeper. You definitely made a good decision with that. Even if it didn't free up any HP, the oil control and maintained oil pressure is worth it just for the piece of mind.



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    ^^^^^

    Tim I ran 11 qrts in the system this past weekend, 9 in the pan and two for the filter and lines. Since the pan is back off I'm re-checking my markings. I think the pan will hold just under 11 qrts at the bottom of the windage tray.

    I was told to fill it to the bottom of the tray then mark the stick. I'll mark it at full and minus 2. I did mark it before but I need to do a better job. I'll tell you this, with clean oil that damn dip stick is hard to read. I found out laying it along my finger or on a sheet of paper is the best way to tell where the level is.

    Yes, Steph's includes the pick-up tube for your pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    That's a nice piece you have there Sleeper. You definitely made a good decision with that. Even if it didn't free up any HP, the oil control and maintained oil pressure is worth it just for the piece of mind.
    I figure it's a good investment for the reasons you mentioned. I'd be surprised if HP numbers didn't show on the dyno but keeping oil off the crank in actual running conditions is worth a bunch.

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    I should have snagged some picks of my pan before it got installed I think mine holds like 14 qts (incl. filter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futs View Post
    so how much oil do you put in it? My 10 qt. pan im putting in 8 qrts. Im going to upgrade to a stephs or might even go with the B&B pan. Same pan just one is steel right? do they come with the pick up?
    The B&B does come with pickup. I have in stock.

    If anyone needs quotes on any Stefs pans (steel or alum) just PM me. I stock all the "steel" pro pans (Chevy Mk4 and Gen 5-6) for vdrives, jets, and offshore. I have probably 15-20 Stefs pro pans on the shelf in various configurations, plus B&B 10 qt jet (vdrive B&B not available at this time).

    Dealer pricing is available for qualified marine dealers, engine builder accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexone View Post
    The B&B does come with pickup. I have in stock.

    If anyone needs quotes on any Stefs pans (steel or alum) just PM me. I stock all the "steel" pro pans (Chevy Mk4 and Gen 5-6) for vdrives, jets, and offshore. I have probably 15-20 Stefs pro pans on the shelf in various configurations, plus B&B 10 qt jet (vdrive B&B not available at this time).

    Dealer pricing is available for qualified marine dealers, engine builder accounts.
    Thanks Rex. Can you PM me a price on both. I have the standard starter location.

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    Pricing

    B&B 10 qt Jet MK4 Pan including pickup, windage screen - $319.99

    B&B pans are made out of GM OE quality stampings, not some cheap aftermarket stamping, they are not a box welded on stock GM or aftermarket rails, and include directional windage screen mounted to pan. Pans I have in stock have pickups for std volume pumps. Specify if you have different model Melling pump. For good oil control at a recessionary sensitive price, this is your pan. You won't find this type of setup (oil control) in many pans that cost quite a bit more.

    B&B's are Mk4 style motor only for now. (No Gen 5-6 and no vdrive models).

    Fits up to 4 3/8" stroke (steel rods only). Pan is 8" deep to achieve proper oil control, capacity, and pickup clearance. 7 3/4 was tried and did not work as well I am told by Chris and Joe (Stef). This could be a clearance issue for some which is why I make a point of mentioning it.

    Link to B&B thread and pictures of it. <<<<<<<







    Stefs Pro BBC 10 qt Jet including pickup, windage screen, full kickout side, 4.375" stroke - $769.99

    Stefs Pro BBC 14 qt Jet including pickup, windage screen, full kickout side, 4.375" stroke - $863.99

    Pans come with pickup for Melling HV pump, specify pump if different model. Pro pans are 100% fabricated. Pans are not painted or plated. User preference there.

    Specify Gen 5-6 or Mk 4


    I have these in stock ready to ship next day. No waiting.

    Here are a few pics of misc Stef's Pro pans so you get an idea of what they consist of.



    14 quart V-drive Stefs Pro Pan





    14 quart Offshore Stefs Pro Pan





    14 quart Offshore Stefs Pro Pan


    Aluminum and Stainless Steel Pans are available - will quote to order.

    Stef's makes pans for just about any engine. Quote to order


    We also handle Dooley and Dan Olson pans.

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    Thanks!!!!

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    So if a typical BBF or BBC oil pan holds 10 qrts how much oil is in the pan when the engine is running or put another way, how much oil is being pumped thru the engine ?

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    Hey Sleeper here is a little trick that might help out with your dipstick reading. I use Dan Olson pans and he supplies them with a piece of welding rod welded to a bolt for a dipstick. With clean oil it is almost impossible to read. So I take them, beat the welding rod flat (slowly carefully) then drill small holes in it spaced closely top to bottom. Your oil level will be at the last oil filled hole. If your dipstick is allready flat, all you have to do is drill holes in it. Someone asked me once dont you worry about it breaking? My answere is no, it's a non stressed part it wont break, and even if it did it is under my windage tray and cant get out. Might help you out, F1~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factory1 View Post
    . With clean oil it is almost impossible to read. So I take them, beat the welding rod flat (slowly carefully) then drill small holes in it spaced closely top to bottom. Your oil level will be at the last oil filled hole.

    That's a good idea...... I wonder why they don't do that

    I scribed mine again last night. 11 qrts to the bottom of the windage tray. And yes it is damn near imposable to read with clean oil.


    Someone here should have some idea about the amount of oil being pumped through the engine.

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