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    What do you guys think about Milodon oil pans. My Dooley windage tray will not clear the 4.25 swing, I got the milodon for a good price(has tray built in) and it will clear, eight quart. Going in a v-drive Hondo, 540 BBC, NA, quarter mile deal for Ming, Elsinore(hopefully), river, etc.
    Saw the posts on Stephs pans making HP due to construction, any comments??????? Thanks

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    There have been literally hundreds of discussions here on pan designs and the why's and why nots. Do some searching and you'll get most of your answers. Bottom line is, if you value the investment you have in your engine, spend the money on a good pan like a Stefs or B&B. If you don't care about your engine, just keep the Milodon. There are a few Stefs/B&B dealers here, including myself that can get you what you need if you decide to go that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    There have been literally hundreds of discussions here on pan designs and the why's and why nots. Do some searching and you'll get most of your answers. Bottom line is, if you value the investment you have in your engine, spend the money on a good pan like a Stefs or B&B. If you don't care about your engine, just keep the Milodon. There are a few Stefs/B&B dealers here, including myself that can get you what you need if you decide to go that direction.
    Ditto, except I would not leave Dooley out. I have one and friends that have them and they work- all blown marine deals 900 hp and up.

    I have used Milodons and had oil control issues... They make a decent car pan tho....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireboat607 View Post
    What do you guys think about Milodon oil pans. My Dooley windage tray will not clear the 4.25 swing, I got the milodon for a good price(has tray built in) and it will clear, eight quart. Going in a v-drive Hondo, 540 BBC, NA, quarter mile deal for Ming, Elsinore(hopefully), river, etc.
    Saw the posts on Stephs pans making HP due to construction, any comments??????? Thanks

    Anyone can pedal a bicycle, can you pedal a flat?????
    As far as I know Dooley makes a tray for your stroke, have you called them? Smitty19 runs a Dooley 14 quart on his 555....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireboat607 View Post
    What do you guys think about Milodon oil pans. My Dooley windage tray will not clear the 4.25 swing, I got the milodon for a good price(has tray built in) and it will clear, eight quart. Going in a v-drive Hondo, 540 BBC, NA, quarter mile deal for Ming, Elsinore(hopefully), river, etc.
    Saw the posts on Stephs pans making HP due to construction, any comments??????? Thanks

    Anyone can pedal a bicycle, can you pedal a flat?????
    As I have stated on other threads on this subject, I am not a big Dooley fan by any means. But I would take that Milodon off in a heart beat. I have ran Dooleys with a 4.25 stroke motor (did I just say that) and they will clear. You are most likely running the stock main bolts. A set of ARPs will let you adjust the tray further away. But the Steph'swill free up HP and keep your oil atthe pick up. After losing a couple of motors due to oil starvation running Dooleys, my driver came up with a little saying....Maintaining oil pressure seems to go along ways towards keeping the motor in one piece"



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    Check here for the thread on milodon v-drive pickups cracking and falling off.


    No way in hell will I ever run a milodon pan again.

    Add Armondo's to the above list of quality pans.
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    I had issues with my Milodon pan. With the Stef's pan I gained oil pressure, and it stays there!! I'm sure it was worth a few ponies too, but I switched from points to an MSD dizzy at the same time, so I cant say for sure what gave me my gains. Love my Stef's pan though.
    My Milodon seemed well constructed but it didnt work well on my engine. Make sure you have a good, fast reacting oil pressure gauge so you know whats going on. If you dont have any pressure issues than you're probly OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    As I have stated on other threads on this subject, I am not a big Dooley fan by any means. But I would take that Milodon off in a heart beat. I have ran Dooleys with a 4.25 stroke motor (did I just say that) and they will clear. You are most likely running the stock main bolts. A set of ARPs will let you adjust the tray further away. But the Steph'swill free up HP and keep your oil atthe pick up. After losing a couple of motors due to oil starvation running Dooleys, my driver came up with a little saying....Maintaining oil pressure seems to go along ways towards keeping the motor in one piece"
    What a simply brilliant statement!
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    In a v-drive application I prefer a custom made pan to fit the boat. With a motor mocked up in the boat measure the front pan rail and the back to the floor then subtract what you want for clearance, 3/4" +/-. You get maximum depth and capacity that way. I've had two pans now from Dan Olsen, very high quality, with built in trap doors, baffling, scraper, and a dzues in windage tray. Built to your dimensions. Jeff Johnstons Billet Fabrications has some really nice pans to. Just some options, F1~
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    Most of your typical box style pans will work fine for 5000 rpm and less. Once you start adding rpm and stroke, your oiling problems with shortly ensue. If you are spinning 5000 - 7000 rpm invest in a quality pan with a kickout and proper windage screen/tray.

    I started out with a box pan on one of my motors only to realize on the dyno how quickly the oil issues were because of the pan. On the way home from the dyno I ordered a new pan with a kickout and proper windage screen. End of oil pressure problems. Many guys that I know will get custom made pans to maximize the kickouts in the sump. Manufactures of your typical box pans are irrelevant in my mind. box pan is a box pan. You need to understand how oil gets whipped up in the pan and the hi and low pressure sides of pans to realize the problems. Your oiling system is your most important piece in your motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by widowmaker View Post
    Most of your typical box style pans will work fine for 5000 rpm and less. Once you start adding rpm and stroke, your oiling problems with shortly ensue. If you are spinning 5000 - 7000 rpm invest in a quality pan with a kickout and proper windage screen/tray.

    I started out with a box pan on one of my motors only to realize on the dyno how quickly the oil issues were because of the pan. On the way home from the dyno I ordered a new pan with a kickout and proper windage screen. End of oil pressure problems. Many guys that I know will get custom made pans to maximize the kickouts in the sump. Manufactures of your typical box pans are irrelevant in my mind. box pan is a box pan. You need to understand how oil gets whipped up in the pan and the hi and low pressure sides of pans to realize the problems. Your oiling system is your most important piece in your motor.
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    I'm having oil pressure problems with my set up and I'm running a Milodon....I'll be swaping it out shortly for a higher quality kick out deal. I'll let you know the result of swapping just the pan.
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    Talk to someone who has ran a Milodon/dooley pan on the dyno versus something of better quality ie Stefs/Olsen and it will become obvious why the latter are more expensive(talking back to back tests here). My motor doesn't have any oil issues but Im not running a crap pan either.

    Also, a side by side comparison will make clear the differences.
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    Milododump suck. That's all I have to say.
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