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    OK, I went and picked up a Wix oil filter for my boat-468 bbc tunnel ram,750s,10-1 comp. and of course they had more than one to offer-I thought Wix did not have a safety bypass in it, but the box says this one does, as well as an anti-drainback valve, which they say prevents dry starts each time the engine is started.Whaaaa? Anyway the part # on this filter is 51060. Is this the proper one for a boat application? They also had a # 51061. Help me Obi-wans.

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    Some here will disagree, but I like my System 1

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    I'll openly say I was always a Fram guy and I'll never purchase another EVER!!!! Since Honeywell acquired them their quality control is far looser than Paco's Tacos on a street corner in Ensenada, MX. who uses strictly dog meat from strays.

    System One is an excellent filter! There are some very good spin-ons with quality components as well and I have no doubts you'll have some very good suggestions from the gurus on this site. If anybody does say Fram is good, I'll post you some photos of a filter that collapsed last month and almost killed a new race motor. Thankfully he burned a piston out of it just prior to completely losing oil pressure so we saved the bottom end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronboats View Post
    OK, I went and picked up a Wix oil filter for my boat-468 bbc tunnel ram,750s,10-1 comp. and of course they had more than one to offer-I thought Wix did not have a safety bypass in it, but the box says this one does, as well as an anti-drainback valve, which they say prevents dry starts each time the engine is started.Whaaaa? Anyway the part # on this filter is 51060. Is this the proper one for a boat application? They also had a # 51061. Help me Obi-wans.
    Car filter, boat filter, doesn't make a dam bit of difference.

    I run an Automotive K&N Gold, 2-qt truck version.

    Have run automotive oil filters on the boat 454 since 1978 now.

    If you consider what the bypass DOES, you'd be smart to run one IMO.
    Once pressure differential across the filter reaches a certain level, it bypasses the filter to keep oiling the engine.
    No bypass and a filter gets cruddy, oil flow goes down.
    If the filter never gets that blocked, the bypass never does anything.

    The anti-drainback valve is only of real value if the filter is not vertical-mounted open-end-up. Mounted factory on my 454, they will not drain empty, the one on my truck 302, will as it sits sideways.
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    I just realized, the guys who like to run straight 40 and 50-weight oils, who like 70psi of oil pressure constantly.........................

    I wonder if they ever realized that, untill they get that molasses good and hot, how much un-filtered oil they are lubing the engines with, because any time there is more than 10 to 20 psi of pressure difference accross the filter media, the bypass valve bypasses the filter media to feed the engine.
    Are these the same guys who want "every drop filtered" at all times...............

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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    i also run a k/n two qt filter hp 6002

    as i look in both listings both filter co. wix and k/n show no bypass with there race filters
    http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=HP-6002


    http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/racing.asp

    http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlook...asp?Part=51061
    look at the flow rates of the wix 51061 to the 51061r

    http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlook...asp?Part=51060
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinLowriderSS View Post
    I just realized, the guys who like to run straight 40 and 50-weight oils, who like 70psi of oil pressure constantly.........................
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    In my younger days aka late teens I ran straight 50 in everything i had , Then again it was free ! Was working for a local commuter airlines at the time and They had barrels of it in the shop , Made many late night oil changes lol

    I wouldnt use it today in anything performance wize today unless its preheated , The shit looks like molasses on a subzero day lol
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    Lots of research to be done about oil and filters.
    Pages upon pages, personally I like mobil one 10w-30 for my 740hp /502 Chevy with remote filter. The filter I'm using is Baldwin bt292, it has a bypass built in. It fits on the system one remote filter mount, plumbed with -12 AN lines to and from the block. 3/4" npt outlets from the filter pad block. It is a standard Gen VI oil system with the 30 psi bypass valve installed in the block. The motor has a Mellings HV77 pump. Always warm the motor up well before bringing rpm up.

    The other motor uses a non bypass Baldwin filter, B134 which has 1 1/2 threads and a non bypass, but oil and filter get changed every 15 - 20 passes. Also being a dry sump deal it's not your ordinary oiling system.

    IMO baldwin makes a lot of different filters for different applications. I believe a good spin on filter from baldwin for a chevrolet is a B279.
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    The Wix is a excellent filter. Krappa aaaa I mean Napa Golds are a good filter as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILFORCE View Post
    The Wix is a excellent filter. Krappa aaaa I mean Napa Golds are a good filter as well.
    There's a very simple reason..................






    Same filter, same manufacturer, different marketing box.
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    Alot of topics repeat themselves over time in here, this is one of them. Oil filters were discussed at length some time ago. There was a filter that came up being praised by several people in here on that thread. I've been meaning to dig through the pages and find it. I want to purchase one before next season. It was a billet aluminum housing with replaceable internals that combined several stages of filtering, high to low micron, was a spin on unit, and cost around $100.00. Who can name that oil filter? Sorry no prizes, just Thanks!!!

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    Well, you just described a "System One" filter. There are surely others but it's what we use on our drag cars. Jim Maher sells them for one.

    http://www.goodvibesracing.com/system_1_oil_filter.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Factory1 View Post
    Alot of topics repeat themselves over time in here, this is one of them. Oil filters were discussed at length some time ago. There was a filter that came up being praised by several people in here on that thread. I've been meaning to dig through the pages and find it. I want to purchase one before next season. It was a billet aluminum housing with replaceable internals that combined several stages of filtering, high to low micron, was a spin on unit, and cost around $100.00. Who can name that oil filter? Sorry no prizes, just Thanks!!!
    Maybe this one. $229.

    http://www.gopurepower.com/store/item.asp?ItemID=PP8435

    I can buy a lot of good disposable filters for that price though. It's cool, but is it worth it?
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    Both nice units, but neither of them are the one I remember.

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