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    Default Hey Steelcomp!

    I guess it really isn't as impossible as some will have us believe. Maybe it's only seems that way if they can't do it.



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    Last page. Of course they could only do it using a vastly superior head.



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    Hmm, more lift on intake then exhaust.
    Rellative small inch big block with vary good heads
    Duration @ .050" the same. Hmm possibly based on very good I/E ratio.
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    Yep, exhaust numbers that could never been met with a set of Canfields



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    What is the date on that article Bob?
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    I have that Mag article....suprisingly. I remember when I first read it and I was in awe they let that into publication. Yes, I will state right now, without bitterness, I don't believe it....Not with a near correct reading dyno will I ever believe it. Not flaming...just stating my opnion.

    Also, I had read in some boating magazine or etc details on the same motor, but it was publicized with lower hp. Kinda weird.

    Anyhow, dig deep into your HP head, read the specs many times, and ask yourself if that's possible. Truly ask yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Engine Masters March '05
    It was Car Craft some years back. Well, unless Engine Masters got the same copy to replublish. Again, I have the copy if anyone wants the date/volume, etc I'll get it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Engine Masters March '05
    Too bad we cant read any of the images you posted...
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    not-enuff-pintos, if you print it, it comes out fine And you need to make a copy so you can bone up on chevies
    I know it hard to read, but it does say engine masters at the bottom of each page. But you know how it is, there was awhile there, that there seemed to only be one publisher.



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    I just figured it out. Click on the image, and then when that comes up, click on it again. It will blow it up so you can read it.

    I see it is from Engine Masters. That article is the exact duplicate of what was published in Car Craft. The cover read '911.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfm View Post
    I have that Mag article....suprisingly. I remember when I first read it and I was in awe they let that into publication. Yes, I will state right now, without bitterness, I don't believe it....Not with a near correct reading dyno will I ever believe it. Not flaming...just stating my opnion.

    Also, I had read in some boating magazine or etc details on the same motor, but it was publicized with lower hp. Kinda weird.

    Anyhow, dig deep into your HP head, read the specs many times, and ask yourself if that's possible. Truly ask yourself.
    I don't remember reading anything in a boat mag on this motor, but it is Steve Brule' jet boat motor. What looks to be the same motor with a different cam, (and larger) made less horsepower until they dropped on a T-ram appeared in Super Chevy
    http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...omparison.html
    As much as it may seem very doubtful, looking at specs to determine the out put of any given motor can be a little misleading. Ever look at the specs of a
    a Sprint Cup engine, and the weight and frontal area of a car. A 60's engineer would tell no way. But they do, or they do a damn good job of lying about it



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    Quote Originally Posted by cfm View Post
    It was Car Craft some years back. Well, unless Engine Masters got the same copy to replublish. Again, I have the copy if anyone wants the date/volume, etc I'll get it for you.
    The Engine Masters Magazine has republished several articles over the years.

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    It was bolt on stuff. The carb, the spacer, the intake - yes CNC'd, but not a full on massaged one - the heads.

    Sure, the shortblock was given care and attention and a vacuum pump used, but this is a very repeatable engine to be put together by many other people quite easily.

    It is no where near a hardcore R&D'd project with a quazzilion massaging hours.

    On the flip side, I'm sure this engine was a very strong one. But, not near what the dyno report said. Same thing with Steels - since you are referencing his motor with this thread - as in it was a very strong build, jus not near what his dyno report stated. Yeh, I know, dame dyno facility.

    I had run the #'s on Steels since his dyno info showed everything needed and the corr was very high. Of course, Mag's don't publish all the dyni info , therefore you can't get the exact, however, I have seen enough outside dyno sheets from there to see the same corr #'s again and again.

    Yeh, I know...WTF ? LOL.

    Very strong motors ? Yes ! Correct dyno #'s ? No ! Not going against how good of a builder/tuner/or anything like that.

    GN7 - you are very sceptical and quite sharp - a little harsh, but heh, it is what it is - and I would expect that you would look into things like this a little futher than accepting them for face or printed value.

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