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    Default 1300hp non intercooled 383 smallblock with a carb

    this link shows the dyno charts
    http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...topic=140800.0






    and the vid

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    the thing probably made 1400+ hp if you figure in the parasitic loss of driving the supercharger.
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    what the!!!... thats not a turbo!!

    that just tickles my fancy right there! F2 procharger at its best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    what the!!!... thats not a turbo!!

    that just tickles my fancy right there! F2 procharger at its best!
    I know,lol. If I were to run a supercharger it would no doubt be a procharger. No positive displacement for me.
    But DAYUM!! those things are expensive when you get into the larger setups.
    Sure would be nice to get to run a bought set of headers instead of the custom made stuff with the turbs too.

    Bet this little small block would be a blast in a light cheyenne, esp if it were built with an aluminum block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hass828 View Post
    I know,lol. If I were to run a supercharger it would no doubt be a procharger. No positive displacement for me.
    But DAYUM!! those things are expensive when you get into the larger setups.
    Sure would be nice to get to run a bought set of headers instead of the custom made stuff with the turbs too.

    Bet this little small block would be a blast in a light cheyenne, esp if it were built with an aluminum block.

    I really wish they would have shown the low end torque these things make. just the fact this little engine maintaines 820 to 900 lbs/ft of torque from 5800 to 7700 is crazy. the whole "small blocks don't work with jets" mentality is no where near the truth when dealing with these things. I agree...this would be a super fun setup in a light boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    I really wish they would have shown the low end torque these things make. just the fact this little engine maintaines 820 to 900 lbs/ft of torque from 5800 to 7700 is crazy. the whole "small blocks don't work with jets" mentality is no where near the truth when dealing with these things. I agree...this would be a super fun setup in a light boat.
    looks like the F2 is $5045+ and the F3 is $6295+

    You can buy a hell of a set of turbos for less. Which is better? Who knows, but it would probably depend on the application.
    The turbo should make a little bit more hp at the same boost but the procharger will come on a little bit sooner.
    Still would be a substantial investment by the time you either put a blowthrough carb or an efi system on top of that price. THEN build an engine capable of withstanding the abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    I really wish they would have shown the low end torque these things make. .
    Alot less the a properly set up turbo deal. Problem with belt centrifs is, if your not spinning them, they aren't making boost. At least with a turbo, regaurdless of the RPM, you can make tons of exhaust heat. Nothing can touch a turbo in the highly loaded low RPM department. Not even a roots. But why would you care about low end in a jet. There is no such thing as a jet climbing a hill, towing a trailer full of horses



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hass828 View Post
    looks like the F2 is $5045+ and the F3 is $6295+.
    Wow, And I thought I was extravagant spending $ 1500. on two turbo's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hass828 View Post
    looks like the F2 is $5045+ and the F3 is $6295+

    You can buy a hell of a set of turbos for less. Which is better? Who knows, but it would probably depend on the application.
    The turbo should make a little bit more hp at the same boost but the procharger will come on a little bit sooner.
    Still would be a substantial investment by the time you either put a blowthrough carb or an efi system on top of that price. THEN build an engine capable of withstanding the abuse.

    Yeah screw that!! not even I would buy one for that price! definitely would have gone turbo had I not gotten a smokin deal on my setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Alot less the a properly set up turbo deal. Problem with belt centrifs is, if your not spinning them, they aren't making boost. At least with a turbo, regaurdless of the RPM, you can make tons of exhaust heat. Nothing can touch a turbo in the highly loaded low RPM department. Not even a roots. But why would you care about low end in a jet. There is no such thing as a jet climbing a hill, towing a trailer full of horses
    I've never said anything bad about turbos...i love them. I also love prochargers...roots....well, we will call roots the red headed step child. No doubt i'm not going up hill, but i do have one massive impeller to spin, and being able to spit out all that torque at lower speeds in the 4000+ is critical. wouldn't want to get stuck not being able to use your engine in its peak power because you can't get it even close to the needed rpm because of the lack of torque down low. Obviously not exactly common for any boosted application, but most people don't realize the crazy flat torque curve these things create, and thats the main thing. just spreadin the procharger word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hass828 View Post
    looks like the F2 is $5045+ and the F3 is $6295+
    Those sound like complete kit prices with everything to bolt on, not just a single head unit.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ap67et10 View Post
    I've never said anything bad about turbos...i love them. I also love prochargers...roots....well, we will call roots the red headed step child. No doubt i'm not going up hill, but i do have one massive impeller to spin, and being able to spit out all that torque at lower speeds in the 4000+ is critical. wouldn't want to get stuck not being able to use your engine in its peak power because you can't get it even close to the needed rpm because of the lack of torque down low. Obviously not exactly common for any boosted application, but most people don't realize the crazy flat torque curve these things create, and thats the main thing. just spreadin the procharger word
    Didn't mean to imply that you were thrashing turbos. Just saying people seem to think the you have to get the motor up and spinning to get a turbo on line. Nothing could be further from the truth. A turbo could care less about the RPM of the motor. It just whats it loaded. WOT at 1500 Rs, up against a full load, look out. You better have one damn good crank in that thing. Even a roots would be hard pressed to make the low end of a fully loaded turbo at low Rs. Problem with a boat is, you could never hope to load a turbo that hard at that low of a RPM. I would'nt give a dime and a half for a belt centrif in a car, because they don't make shit for boost at 2500. And thats when I want it, in a land locked vehicle



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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinTurbo540 View Post
    Those sound like complete kit prices with everything to bolt on, not just a single head unit.....

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    It is kit price. If you were going to run one you would probably need more than just the head unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Alot less the a properly set up turbo deal. Problem with belt centrifs is, if your not spinning them, they aren't making boost. At least with a turbo, regaurdless of the RPM, you can make tons of exhaust heat. Nothing can touch a turbo in the highly loaded low RPM department. Not even a roots. But why would you care about low end in a jet. There is no such thing as a jet climbing a hill, towing a trailer full of horses
    Do you think that torque makes no difference in a jet ? Thats its entirely about hp ?
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