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    Where can i find carb wedges to lean a sideways hung 4150/4160 carb forward? I can find the ones for carbs that are mounted inline, but not sideways.

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    Hi Shawn,

    I'm trying to figure out if you're asking for a left handed bat? I'm trying to picture a wedge and for some reason I can't get the visual this morning of your problem I'm going to have to draw myself a picture to figure out why the reg wedge mounted at 90* won't work A 4150 has a square base, but is the taper cut the wrong direction than what you need Dumb question on my part, I just need a visual.

    I'm sure GN will be along soon to help you out.

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    Sleeper, Hmm.. measuring my carbs they are not square. They are about 1/2" shorter from one side to the other. My carbs are sitting sideways, i need to lean them forward to level out the bowls. My understanding is that the normal moroso wedge is for leaning a carb forward that is sitting straight/inline on the manifold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
    Hi Shawn,

    I'm trying to figure out if you're asking for a left handed bat? I'm trying to picture a wedge and for some reason I can't get the visual this morning of your problem I'm going to have to draw myself a picture to figure out why the reg wedge mounted at 90* won't work A 4150 has a square base, but is the taper cut the wrong direction than what you need Dumb question on my part, I just need a visual.

    I'm sure GN will be along soon to help you out.

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    Ya know Jon, some times you just really piss me off. Now you just know you should have let this go until I had a shot at him first. But OH NO, you had to steal the thunder while I was dozzing. Loved the left handed bat thing. CLASSIC!! Right up there with left handed smoke shifters. And as much as I would love to blast him, he has a point. Although Doms have a square bolt pattern, 4150 do not. Because most manifolds have two bolt patterns for a 4150, most people don't give it much thought. Until you buy Edelbrock T Ram. And realize you need an adaptor just to run you carbs side ways.
    So he doesn't need top turn the wedge 90*, he needs a wedge with both patterns.

    OK NOW SHAUN,

    I have to ask. Do you really even know what it is you want? Are these wedgies going to be used to level out your side ways mounted 4150 dual feeds? Are you aware of the fact that you may still have to run you adaptors along with the wedgies.
    Why don't you just buy a v-drive and be done with all this hocus pocus.

    OK heres you part numbers. Check with Rex. Glenwood Marine, Catalog # 20510 Item # 455.


    But really Shaun, you could just standard regular, every day wedgies and put your adaptors on top of those. They just go between the manifold and the adaptors.



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    The motor in my boat sits at a 4.5* angle, once in the water that angle gets worse. Last trip out i adjusted my foats on the water and my surge problem got alot better, pretty much went away. One thing i noticed when adjusting the floats is that i have them set pretty low, so there probably isnt much fuel in them.

    I figured i would still have to run my adapters, i thought about just sticking the wedge under the adapters too but it didnt sound like a good idea. Those adapter bolts would no longer sit flat and i wasnt sure if they would stick up above the adapter at that angle.

    I'm still confused as to what i said that was wrong

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    Carb size.....

    Thanks for the reminder guys, I must be getting old, or I need to eat more brain food. When Shaun wrote 1/2" shorter it all came back to me, my dominators are square at 5.5" and a 4150 is 5" x 5.5". One would think I'd know that I fooled with that issue more than once.

    Thanks for reminding me I'm getting old at 47

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    Bob, hmm, that shim looks like it tappers on the same side as the moroso's. The picture shows it tappering on the 5-5/8" side. Also 12* of tapper, that seams like alot!

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    You didn't say anything wrong. I think its the way you ask it. When i first read it, I saw it the same way Sleeper did. But you don't need to turn the wedge 90*. That would only help if you were turning the boat And you could even turn one of them one way, and the other one the other way. That way they worked for right and left turns
    Maybe the dualpattern would work with the adaptor on the bottom, and the wedge on top. OR. Bolt the adaptor to the manifold with recessed or flat heads, and put threaded inserts in the wedge to bolt the carb to, and toss the adaptors. Go to page 26

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Bob, hmm, that shim looks like it tappers on the same side as the moroso's. The picture shows it tappering on the 5-5/8" side. Also 12* of tapper, that seams like alot!
    The taper needs to be on the same way regaudless of which way the carb mounts. The wedge is still front to rear. Its just that your carbs mount side ways. If you took the dual pattern wedge, and put it on your manifold, the unused holes would line up with your carb pattern. At that point. you either install you adaptor, or make a means to bolt the carb to the wedge by adding some inserts to the wedge.



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    Hope I'm not jacking this thread but I'm considering a wedge and would appreciate your advise. After setting my float levels while on the dyno and running my engine on the trailer without any issues, I put my boat in the water for the first time with the new engine last weekend. It ran like crap! I'm pretty sure the floats are to high when the boat is in the water with the bow up. Should I use a wedge to bring the carbs back to level, or just adjust the float level?

    Edit: 2 - 1050 dominators, mounted sideways
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    Not a big fan of wedging carbs on a T Ram. You are actualy change the discharge entrance angle into the plenum when you do so. I would much rather address the floats themselves. We use a set of these, with the tapered part towards the back. They will also help with the launch by not cutting off the fuel when it rushes to the back due to the immence G force you jet boys produce
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WCD-WCD116-3100/




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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Not a big fan of wedging carbs on a T Ram. You are actualy change the discharge entrance angle into the plenum when you do so. I would much rather address the floats themselves. We use a set of these, with the tapered part towards the back. They will also help with the launch by not cutting off the fuel when it rushes to the back due to the immence G force you jet boys produce
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WCD-WCD116-3100/


    was wondering if they made a left and right,
    JUST WENT AND LOOKED they make a double bevel float that would work on both sides (primary -secondary) ..........Eric
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    Yeah they are left and right. The single type that I posted are for circle track. So there is a primary and secondary float. The double tapers are for road race.



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    i though about wedged floats but i wasnt sure if that would solve my problem. Figured it actually might cause a new problem by allowing the bowl to fill with too much fuel and then have it overflow under hard acceleration or when the boat wheelies during a launch. I wish i would have took a angle measurment of my carbs while the boat was sitting in the water.

    The reason i dont think the spacers will work between the manifold and the adapter is that the adapter's bolts are actually a machine screw style head. It's wide and flat and when installed they probably only have 1/8" of so of space between the screw head and the carb. I dont really think i can get any screws with heads that are not as tall. Not only that but then the head of the screw is going to not sit flat on the spacer. I have another set of adapters here that are for my buddies engine. I'll play with them and see what it looks like.

    On another note, my buddy bought a edelbrock vic tunnel ram but the street version (oval port). The top that comes with it has angle already machined into it. It has 3.5* of wedge in it. The top looks exactly the same as my top, i'm actually wondering if the top would bolt right up. My guess is that it would. Not sure why they decided to machine some wedge into that top and not the other tops.

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