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    I work for a company that uses little 4 cyl Ford industrial engines in equipment. (day job). I have a customer that needed a valve job. Most of these are lp engines, so hard on seats/ valves. I priced parts today.
    4 intake valves, 4 exhaust valves, 4 intake seats, 4 exhaust seats, 8 seals...... $852. NO SHIT! That is parts only. Not labor.
    I need to switch to industrial diesel stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagspe208 View Post
    I work for a company that uses little 4 cyl Ford industrial engines in equipment. (day job). I have a customer that needed a valve job. Most of these are lp engines, so hard on seats/ valves. I priced parts today.
    4 intake valves, 4 exhaust valves, 4 intake seats, 4 exhaust seats, 8 seals...... $852. NO SHIT! That is parts only. Not labor.
    I need to switch to industrial diesel stuff.
    Wags
    No, you need to move to the supply side of the diesel stuff. Imagine the mark-up there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    No, you need to move to the supply side of the diesel stuff. Imagine the mark-up there...
    Roger that. Our price on an intake valve is 43 and exhaust 79. I called my engine parts supplier. Intake 11, exh 19.
    Oh, well..
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    Those stationary engines use stellite seats and valves. There is no liquid to lube them.
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    That is where I should be. Restoring old pieces of crap to like new!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagspe208 View Post
    That is where I should be. Restoring old pieces of crap to like new!
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    Parts costs ? I buy Cat, Detroit and Cummings parts at freightliner, KW for less than factory dealer.

    PS we replaced all the fords with john deere power plants
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    i'm rebuilding a deutz oil cooled deisel rt. now @ my shop out of an Ingersol-Rand 150cfm portable air comp. 2 injectors and the head gasket
    had to come from Germany! just parts to do a fluff job/repair and machine
    work (recon 1 rod, line hone, turn crank ) rings, bearings, gaskets, 2 inj.
    I'm into this thing for 2800.00- not counting my labor, for a paltry 49hp!

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    No you need to be in Europe and have a good parts supply in the States. Customer needed a front pump for a 727 Torque flight. My cost on the pump was $160. I asked him what was fair price for it. His cost was $1800 from a European supplier. I said okay how about $320. He said that was fine. Freight was $300. He charged the customer $2500 plus freight. Come to find out the part from the car dealer was $3500. It was an Aston Martin Vanquish....they use a Chrysler Tranny.

    Hell your lucky to make 20% on performance parts for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstraub View Post
    Hell your lucky to make 20% on performance parts for the most part.
    Roger that. If you price stuff individually you usually can't do that because of iternet searchers. I gon't blame customers I guess.
    If a customer wants to source his own parts I will provide a list of p/n and if there is a problem it is his problem. I just add labor other places to cover the cost of time.
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    I won't have my guys research part numbers for folks that want to buy them somewhere else.

    I have a few that will just wear us out with questions. One jerk recently wanted me to build him an engine. His stuff he brought in was junk. Sat with water in it for years. He wanted me to bore just 1 hole to see if it would make a .040. I told him no and he got pissed. It needed 2 sleeves. So he was going to start from scratch. And insisted on starting with cylinder heads. Wanted me to research the GM performance catalog so he could buy them from a dealer that gives him a smokin deal. I told him no. He found a bunch of stuff a guy had for sale in Chicago and wanted me to one part at a time analyze if it was a good deal or not. I told him no.

    I finally told him if he wants me to build him an engine that will work well for what he needs bring in some $$ and I will take care of it.

    He bought the stuff from Chicago and had another shop up there do it. Called me to brag on how little power it made on the dyno. lol and then tried to wear us out about some tune up issues he was having. My guy told him he should call the guy that built it. lol



    Quote Originally Posted by wagspe208 View Post
    Roger that. If you price stuff individually you usually can't do that because of iternet searchers. I gon't blame customers I guess.
    If a customer wants to source his own parts I will provide a list of p/n and if there is a problem it is his problem. I just add labor other places to cover the cost of time.
    Knowledge is not free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    I won't have my guys research part numbers for folks that want to buy them somewhere else.

    I have a few that will just wear us out with questions. One jerk recently wanted me to build him an engine. His stuff he brought in was junk. Sat with water in it for years. He wanted me to bore just 1 hole to see if it would make a .040. I told him no and he got pissed. It needed 2 sleeves. So he was going to start from scratch. And insisted on starting with cylinder heads. Wanted me to research the GM performance catalog so he could buy them from a dealer that gives him a smokin deal. I told him no. He found a bunch of stuff a guy had for sale in Chicago and wanted me to one part at a time analyze if it was a good deal or not. I told him no.

    I finally told him if he wants me to build him an engine that will work well for what he needs bring in some $$ and I will take care of it.

    He bought the stuff from Chicago and had another shop up there do it. Called me to brag on how little power it made on the dyno. lol and then tried to wear us out about some tune up issues he was having. My guy told him he should call the guy that built it. lol
    Nothing worse than getting pumped for info, and giving it, hoping to create some business, only to have the guy take your info and his money to someone else. Then when things go wrong, he's back wanting more info trying to figure out what went wrong! LOL...
    "No" gets easier and easier to say.
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    Ah. Retirement is great. Important things to figure out like which motorcycle to ride or tinker with today.
    Thanks for reminding me how great it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat48 View Post
    Ah. Retirement is great. Important things to figure out like which motorcycle to ride or tinker with today.
    Thanks for reminding me how great it is.
    LMAO, so you don't miss that sort of daily grind?
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    Carnivalride, you really need to find some other hobby. You have no talent for this boat thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelcomp View Post
    Nothing worse than getting pumped for info, and giving it, hoping to create some business, only to have the guy take your info and his money to someone else. Then when things go wrong, he's back wanting more info trying to figure out what went wrong! LOL...
    "No" gets easier and easier to say.
    Yeah, like you and LO and some others have ever had that happen. I can understand a guy looking for all the info he can get when trying it himself. But when they pump you guys for info and time and turn around and give the job to some where else, it eerks my ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiat48 View Post
    Ah. Retirement is great. Important things to figure out like which motorcycle to ride or tinker with today.
    Thanks for reminding me how great it is.
    Every time my boss tells me how bored I'll be, I just laugh.



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