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    meant to ask, how did you set your oil level with an aftermarket pan. I bought a 10 quart pan (advertised from summit as 10 anyway) added 10 quarts + filled filter. way low on the new aftermarket dipstick. shoved two more quarts in so i could breath safer, but on the bottom of the fill line with 12 quarts. dipstick is a standard 454 chrome deal, no reason to think its wrong height. how did you set your level? school me pls.

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    I'd say just looking at the pan that 10 qts is it's max. So I would do 10 qts in the pan and remark the stick.
    Odds are at 12 qts you'll just be airating the oil.
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    i cut the stock dip stick down to a shorty then i filled my pan up with 9 quarts,let it sit while i drank a beer, marked it.. then 10, drank another beer, marked it. called it good and kept drinkin beers

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    Put 10 qts of water in it before you install it. See where the level is. If it's acceptable put it in the boat and remark the dipstick. Engine attitude in the boat may affect the reading on an existing mark. Even if you marked it with the trial amount of water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    Put 10 qts of water in it before you install it. See where the level is. If it's acceptable put it in the boat and remark the dipstick. Engine attitude in the boat may affect the reading on an existing mark. Even if you marked it with the trial amount of water.
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    As per Info, check the level prior to installation. To get a better idea where the oil is when installed, block up the pan where it will be 4 to 5 degrees tilt, check level while keeping oil below the "windage" tray area and out of the crankshaft. If above the tray and in the crankshaft windage area it is going to "whip" and aireate the oil.... along with robbing HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    meant to ask, how did you set your oil level with an aftermarket pan. I bought a 10 quart pan (advertised from summit as 10 anyway) added 10 quarts + filled filter. way low on the new aftermarket dipstick. shoved two more quarts in so i could breath safer, but on the bottom of the fill line with 12 quarts. dipstick is a standard 454 chrome deal, no reason to think its wrong height. how did you set your level? school me pls.

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    That sure looks a lot like the Stef's B&B pan.
    X3 on filling it before you install it. You don't want the oil level above the screen for reasons mentioned above. If you have ten quarts in the pan, and it shows 2 qts low on the stick, that just means the oil level is that much further away from the crank, and that's a good thing, and probably the way it's designed. If you have the pan installed and it's too late to do a visual fill check, then just run the recommended 10qts and don't worry about it. You have 10qts of oil...you're safe.
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    That appears to be a reboxed Hamburger pan. It is a 10qt pan. Listen to Info/Gearhead/and steelcomp. It is designed for 10 qts.
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    Its not a reboxed Hamburger pan. It is in fact a Hambuger pan in a Hamburger box. Its carries a Summit part # as a kit made up of Hamburger, ARP pan bolts, and Mellings pump.
    You don't want to run that pan with more than 10 qts in it no matter what your dipstick says. Where ever 10 qts falls on the dipstick, thats where you what to run it. Like Steelcomp said, it will carry the oil a little lower than some other pans.
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    If I may humbly add...just cause it's a "10 qt pan" doesn't mean it will work with a full 10 qts 'in the pan'...kinda sucks.
    I can only run 8 qts in my 10 qt pan or else the crank beats the oil, airates it and pressure drops when the go pedal is stomped.
    Also, due to some baffle configurations, when you 'drain' the oil, some baffles (as mine) hold about 1 qt in the pan > so I refill with 7 qts.
    PS I did check my levels before I installed my pan > 10 qts put the oil level 1/2" above the lowest part of the tray...8 qts put it just under. Add in the tilt of the engine and other factors > to keep the oil away from the crank beating it and causing windage issues.
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    Mr. Stef designed that pan when he worked for Ed. I can assure you it is a 10 qt pan.
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    I have never installed any aftermarket pan that did not require remarking the dipstick.

    All of my 10 quart pans I put 8 in, marked the stick, then 10 and marked it again.

    I have found that sometimes swapping sticks from different motors ended up correct, but generally I have had to cut the tube down at the top to get the stick lower.

    Most aftermarket dipstick assemblies I have bought require this.
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    • Install bone dry engine into vehicle/vessel and position the vehicle/vessel to sit at the attitude it normally would.
    • Add the pan manufacturer's recommended amount of oil for the pan.
    • Install dipstick and remove. Use this oil level to scribe the new "Full" mark on your dipstick.
    • Start the engine to circulate oil throughout the engine's lubricating system. Shut the engine down.
    • Wait one minute then reinsert dipstick and check oil level. Top off to the newly described full mark


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    If you have a 10 qt pan is it still safe to say run 8 qts to avoid the chance of airation or are they designed to function correctly with 10 qts only..
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