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    Default Nascar getting rid of eth. In racing fuel??

    So, it's not working out so good. They are having more motor failures? Got to love eth.

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    So lets see some FACTS of how ethanol CAUSED a motor failure and not just some BS statement you pulled out of your ass.

    I think you have taken the title as the least credible.

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    I will second your motion Mark

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    HA,HA,HA

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    Mark, just ignore him, he obviously just wants attention. Jocko

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    Default Yeah....

    Yeah, that's almost as crazy as blaming an engine failure on an oil filter brand!!...

    IMO, some of the big buck cup teams might be cutting some corners in their engine shops... The NASCAR scene is not immune to the economic downturn the country is experiencing.... What I find rather amusing about NASCAR is the car "brand" hype. The is nothing from the major automotive brand inside those engines. (or frames or suspension, or brakes, or body parts, etc etc...)
    The engine's outside might look like a GM, or Ford, or even Toyota, but the guts are pure aftermarket parts and pieces. Another thing about NASCAR, after an engine failure the fans never see what it was that actually failed. Whereas in NHRA the broken parts/pieces are usually left in plain sight for fans and TV cameras. And, yes, I know, there are NO Ford parts in Force's funnycar. In defense of the original poster, it is possible that the E85 may create some tuning issues that cause the engines to lean out. Possible, but very doubtful.....
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    I believe Ford cast's the blocks for Force and Bob Tasca. I know, they have nothing to do with street cars. Also Toyota does not make a V-8 with the cam in the block. They are OHC, except in NASCAR. If it flies, floats or rolls and has an engine in it, I will probably watch it.

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    If they are it's probably because of weight and mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkmate21 View Post
    I believe Ford cast's the blocks for Force and Bob Tasca. I know, they have nothing to do with street cars. Also Toyota does not make a V-8 with the cam in the block. They are OHC, except in NASCAR. If it flies, floats or rolls and has an engine in it, I will probably watch it.
    There is no way John Force racing is using cast blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rocket View Post
    There is no way John Force racing is using cast blocks.

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    There is no way John Force racing is using cast blocks.
    I agree. Force has a huge collection of Haas CNC machines that most likely spit out Billet blocks/heads all day long... The days of water jackets is looooog gone, those suckers are solid, and knowing the way Force and Austin Coyle did things, most likely some aluminum alloy that has yet to be invented..... Or identified.... I know Coyle built a blower dyno years ago. It had/has a huge flywheel on it to duplicate the instant engagement of the "hit"....In an interview a few years ago Coyle was asked what they did with the blowers that didn't meet their specs. The answer, "We sell them to our competitors".... Same with clutch discs, test, and sell the marginal ones to other racers....
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    Ray, I am beginning to wonder what you know about this. His name is Austin COIL As in Farkonas, Coil and Minick. Also, if you don't think you can blow up an engine using a Fram filter, allow me to buy the next Fram for your Pro Stock and I will be gald to demonstrate it for you.


    geterdone, although I am not a big fan of putting even 15% ethonal in a race gas, never forget 100% ethonal is the ONLY fuel used at Indy since 2007. And not one team has ever clainmed it blew up their engine.



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    geterdone, although I am not a big fan of putting even 15% ethonal in a race gas, never forget 100% ethonal is the ONLY fuel used at Indy since 2007. And not one team has ever clainmed it blew up their engine.[/QUOTE]

    Bob, I've seen it written both ways, and never really though about it that much... I do know that Force was an also ran for years, ("Brute car") before him and AUSTIN got together in the 80s... AND, I still don't understand how you could demonstrate an engine failure using a Fram filter that wouldn't blow with just about any other brand filter... Yeah, yeah, you've mentioned the COLD 50wt, but that would be about the same with any filter if not warmed up a bit... Again Bob, Gotta be going on 5 decades using Fram, and I really can't blame the oil filter for any of the ex/im plosions.... I've even used the stockers, good old PH13s, or PH8As on Fords or the early remote adapters that required Ford filters regardless of the engine type... I HAVE listened to the naysayers and bought the high dollar Wix, or Baldwin, even a couple of K&Ns, and never really saw any difference. (come to think about it, there was a Baldwin on the 468 engine that kicked the rods at the Beach in 09)...As I recall, the 04 engine in the PS boat had Fram all year, (#2 Nationally), same for the 08 engine, (#1 Nationally). Both were little stroke 440s, but they made it all year both times... Both of those were blown up starting the NEXT season at Parker, and neither one had bearing issues leading to the failure...(Both were wrist pin/piston failures, and we mistakenly believed they had "One more race" in them.....) There was a Fram Engineer that posted here or HB and had plenty of test results to throw at the Fram Haters, but again, IMO, most, if not all of the engines that failed would've failed regardless of the filter brand.....Just speaking from what little experience I have, AND I STILL LOVE MY MAGS...
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