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    I have recently, past 6 months, seen a number of Prius or other hybird car owners driving around with the windows down and all the occupants or most chain smoking away.

    Are they really doing this earth any good? The last one I saw the driver, female, was about 300lbs and the male passenger was about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    I have recently, past 6 months, seen a number of Prius or other hybird car owners driving around with the windows down and all the occupants or most chain smoking away.

    Are they really doing this earth any good? The last one I saw the driver, female, was about 300lbs and the male passenger was about the same.

    no - they are just repesenting the gross pullution and "new thinking " lol

    Still cracks me up the gas miliage these cars get Really isn't that impressive . A diesil v-w is pulling 50 mpg
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    Wondering if the Obama stickers on them are hurting their mpg.
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    Everyone that I know that drives a Prius, all 5 of them, bought it for the fuel economy and or ability to drive in the carpool lane and nothing else.

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    Is it me, or do they all drive like assholes? I'm serious...

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    An employee of mine worked for Toyota a few years ago and his training was geared to spin the facts.....they say 50+ mpg's are possible......he said yes, with all accessories off and at 40mph. A lie. 30K to purchase yet a civic is 15K and gets 30+ mpg which is about what the Prius gets on the highway with the accessories on. A lie. Studies show that it takes 9-10 years to recoup what you invested into a prius; I have never owned a car that long. The batteries reportedly take more of a carbon foot print to manufacture and dispose of properly than what they magically say you will save in MPGs.



    "As a result, the payback time for an all-electric vehicle in the U.S. is about 15 years, and for an extended-range vehicle such as the Chevrolet Volt it would be 19 years, the study finds. "

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    Not to mention our electrical grid is on the verge of failure due to demand in many areas yet we have not built a nuke plant in 30 years to keep with demand and growth?

    I think the whole thing is a scam. Drill here, now and let the technology evolve naturally and not make matters worse because of a sense of urgency of a small minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 454Rocket View Post
    Is it me, or do they all drive like assholes? I'm serious...
    seriously, when I drive around I'm usually going around 80 on the fwy, pretty standard right. I always laugh when I see a prius pass me weaving in and out of traffic.

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    prius = false economy.

    so you get what 30 - 40 mpg with car that if you get into an accident you will be seriously injured or killed, in a normal car or truck you'd walk away from.....

    or how about the fact the batteries have to be replaced some time down the line????? just what we need more batteries to dispose of....

    or how about the bs mpg thing. perhaps we should look into diesel car, my brother drives an mercedes SUV with a diesel he gets 30 mph on the fwy at 70mph.

    BMW has a concept car with a diesel hybrid that gets 63mpg.... now that might be something worth looking into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    An employee of mine worked for Toyota a few years ago and his training was geared to spin the facts.....they say 50+ mpg's are possible......he said yes, with all accessories off and at 40mph. A lie. 30K to purchase yet a civic is 15K and gets 30+ mpg which is about what the Prius gets on the highway with the accessories on. A lie. Studies show that it takes 9-10 years to recoup what you invested into a prius; I have never owned a car that long. The batteries reportedly take more of a carbon foot print to manufacture and dispose of properly than what they magically say you will save in MPGs.



    "As a result, the payback time for an all-electric vehicle in the U.S. is about 15 years, and for an extended-range vehicle such as the Chevrolet Volt it would be 19 years, the study finds. "

    http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...ID=20101080335

    Not to mention our electrical grid is on the verge of failure due to demand in many areas yet we have not built a nuke plant in 30 years to keep with demand and growth?

    I think the whole thing is a scam. Drill here, now and let the technology evolve naturally and not make matters worse because of a sense of urgency of a small minority.
    This is so true. We need to invest in our infrastructure as it is going to crap.

    http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbs View Post
    This is so true. We need to invest in our infrastructure as it is going to crap.

    http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/
    Damn, we agree on something!

    BTW, all of my post is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    Damn, we agree on something!
    We probably agree on more than you might think. I bet we often just assume where the other might stand on an issue just because we tend to judge a book by it's cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbs View Post
    We probably agree on more than you might think. I bet we often just assume where the other might stand on an issue just because we tend to judge a book by it's cover.
    The few people I know who drive them do so to save on gas around town. Folks are getting near 50 MPG in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra26 # 1 View Post
    The few people I know who drive them do so to save on gas around town. Folks are getting near 50 MPG in town.
    But do they you know how bad/destructive/corrosive of a technology the batteries are? How much of a larger "carbon foot print" they are contributing? How much more money it is costing them over all? And that they are contributing to a false since and mindset that they are doing good but the overall net is less or worse than driving a civic?

    "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
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