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    overhauling a 21 daytona, Looking to order a rex marine spun alluminum bezel for steering helm : http://www.rexmar.com/page92.html



    problem is im not sure how to remove the old MORSE CONTROLS black plastic one that is in place now.




    Any expertise on this?

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    Shane

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    The black plastic dash cover has 2 small detents on the side of the bezzel that with a small screwdrive will aid in popping the cap off.

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    Hey Shoe...I too have a old Morse Rotary set-up on my 1983 21' Daytona >with a lot of play at the wheel > anything inside the box I can adjust or repair?
    Everything at the pump end is solid.
    Thanks, Ray
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerDown View Post
    Hey Shoe...I too have a old Morse Rotary set-up on my 1983 21' Daytona >with a lot of play at the wheel > anything inside the box I can adjust or repair?
    Everything at the pump end is solid.
    Thanks, Ray
    I have the same problem, don't want to replace it with these new chineeez sh#t.

    Cable is still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet mad View Post
    I have the same problem, don't want to replace it with these new chineeez sh#t.

    Cable is still good.

    Wikus
    My cable is smooth operating...but I think we're screwed >unless> something behind the dash is repairable.
    Trust me, I'm NOT looking forward to fighting a new steering cable through my Daytona
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerDown View Post
    My cable is smooth operating...but I think we're screwed >unless> something behind the dash is repairable.
    Trust me, I'm NOT looking forward to fighting a new steering cable through my Daytona
    x2, I had a Morse steering on my 3 Stage Hamilton, same problem, replaced it with a well known "Branded T" steering, broke 7 ribs, almost drowned after being tossed, the wife pulled me out of the water, still here.

    Same problem with my throttle/shifter. Chineez sh#t suck

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    Few years back I wiggled under the dash and unbolted the backing plate cover screws to take a peek inside...I don't recall seeing anything 'bad' but I wish I could again see a exploded view of what was inside.
    Think it was something like a worm gear etc.
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    Changed the cable in the Morse rotary in my 80 Eliminator Sprint back in about 2004. Seem to recall it being a planetary gearset. Nothing in there to adjust. At the time, I was lucky to find a NOS cable as they are no longer servicing the early Morse rotary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsquirt View Post
    Changed the cable in the Morse rotary in my 80 Eliminator Sprint back in about 2004. Seem to recall it being a planetary gearset. Nothing in there to adjust. At the time, I was lucky to find a NOS cable as they are no longer servicing the early Morse rotary.
    Could you observe where the slop may have come from?
    Honestly I don't recall mine being "planetary" but maybe a worm gear???
    I'll be under it on a cooler day...it's like 90 + humid here
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerDown View Post
    Could you observe where the slop may have come from?
    Honestly I don't recall mine being "planetary" but maybe a worm gear???
    I'll be under it on a cooler day...it's like 90 + humid here
    I wish I had taken a pic while I had it apart. I can tell you that on mine the helm shaft goes dead center through the rotary housing. Info on Teleflex site indicates that would indeed be a planetary set up.

    The only disassembly to do under the dash is to loosen the two bolts(facing the dashboard) that hold the rotary housing to the helm. Swing it out from underneath the dash to disassemble the housing. There is nothing to adjust inside there, though. Any play between the gears will result in some slack/freeplay. I think the majority of the slack in the steering is from the cable itself. Pretty hard to get around that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsquirt View Post
    I wish I had taken a pic while I had it apart. I can tell you that on mine the helm shaft goes dead center through the rotary housing. Info on Teleflex site indicates that would indeed be a planetary set up.

    The only disassembly to do under the dash is to loosen the two bolts(facing the dashboard) that hold the rotary housing to the helm. Swing it out from underneath the dash to disassemble the housing. There is nothing to adjust inside there, though. Any play between the gears will result in some slack/freeplay. I think the majority of the slack in the steering is from the cable itself. Pretty hard to get around that.
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    I used to have a rotary helm in my 95 21' daytona. It was junk. I wanted to just do the cable. I finally gave in and bought a whole new helm and cable. Wished I had done it sooner. It is smooth now and has zero slack. And yes the rack and pinion style fits no problem in my 21' daytona.

    Here is the link to rex.

    http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2...e=teleflexrack

    You're gonna spend a $100 for a cable, why not just buy a whole new deal for an extra $40.
    Boat 405.

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    I have a 98 Warlock that has a rotary, would there be any benefit to switching to a rack type? I have a 7.4L so I'm not using big hp.
    I'm wondering if it would fit under the dash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg shoemaker View Post
    The black plastic dash cover has 2 small detents on the side of the bezzel that with a small screwdrive will aid in popping the cap off.
    Thank you so much for this Greg! I removed the friction knob and stuck a long flathead through the slot and was able to expand the bezel enough to pop off the two small detents.

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