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    Default MSD needs your input on survey and possibly win $100

    For years, MSD has made a name for itself in the automotive world of high end performance products. Many on this forum may already use one of their UL approved marine ignition systems. Recently MSD has expanded to make a kit that converts carbureted engines to fuel injection with the new Atomic EFI system. This system is easy to install and offers many technical advantages over a carburetor setup.

    This system is currently designed for automotive use only. However MSD has approached you, our forum members, in hopes of learning more about the marine market and how users might view such a system if it were made applicable for marine use.

    Please click on the URL and fill out the survey.

    MSD Performance - Marine Atomic EFI

    Your input will have direct impact on how MSD proceeds with this system.
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    Just did the survey, and while something like this isn't going to be a big draw for my draw thru turbo boat, I am curious when I see these how much of an advantage they have over a carb. They always remind me of the throttle body injection systems that nobody liked even back then. So, if you are going to go fuel injected...wouldn't you want multi-port?

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible_buddhist View Post
    Just did the survey, and while something like this isn't going to be a big draw for my draw thru turbo boat, I am curious when I see these how much of an advantage they have over a carb. They always remind me of the throttle body injection systems that nobody liked even back then. So, if you are going to go fuel injected...wouldn't you want multi-port?


    The idea behind a throttle body is to make it as simple and low effort as possible to convert over from a carburetor. With a throttle body system we can maintain the customers existing intake manifold in most cases and have a very simple harness compared to a multi port system. It also allows us to keep a relatively low cost compared to going to a multi port system. This system has been very popular for our automotive customers that want to convert there carbureted engines to EFI and be able to do the job themselves. We have had many questions about adapting the system to marine applications so we thought we would do a little market research to help us determine if we should pursue the marine path. We appreciate you input.

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    Id pursue it. Alot of my customers are not scared of electronics, some are but still want the technology. I dont think you would regret going after it.

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    MSD IS the Best stuff since sliced bread ! First class did the survey !

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    I'd love to have EFI on my rigs. Some of the lakes around here are at 7500', the one I boat on regularly is at 4500', and if I make a run to Nor Cal, I'm closer to sea level. I hate changing jets!!!!

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    MSD Mike , is the Target market the family truckster type boat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs19 View Post
    Id pursue it. Alot of my customers are not scared of electronics, some are but still want the technology. I dont think you would regret going after it.

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    its all good till the smoke leaks out

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunabiteme View Post
    its all good till the smoke leaks out
    Best line ever.

    "There is smoke in all these MSD boxes, we just dont want to let it out"

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    I don't have a carbureted boat so did not do the survey.

    O2 sensor is the drawback for most marine engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tunabiteme View Post
    its all good till the smoke leaks out
    Amen to that. Not to specifically dis MSD products, but I've had two ignition units of different vintage go south (different times, different applications) after working flawlessly for several years. Didn't do anything to cause them to go out, that I'm aware of. So I carry some trepidation regarding these, and other "black box" things that we trust to get us back to the ramp. You can almost always limp 20 miles back up the lake on a bad set of points and a fouled carburetor. But once the smoke escapes from the black box, you're screwed. I'm paranoid enough to carry a spare HEI distributor around on my float....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infomaniac View Post
    I don't have a carbureted boat so did not do the survey.O2 sensor is the drawback for most marine engines.

    I agree. Really wanted to do on boat (was just going to use the auto version); but the requirement to have an O2 sensor at all times made this install borderline impossible without major exhaust changes.


    So...I used a stock GM ECU and an open loop tune.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mpkardell View Post
    Amen to that. Not to specifically dis MSD products, but I've had two ignition units of different vintage go south (different times, different applications) after working flawlessly for several years. Didn't do anything to cause them to go out, that I'm aware of. So I carry some trepidation regarding these, and other "black box" things that we trust to get us back to the ramp. You can almost always limp 20 miles back up the lake on a bad set of points and a fouled carburetor. But once the smoke escapes from the black box, you're screwed. I'm paranoid enough to carry a spare HEI distributor around on my float....
    I own, use and like MSD products and with that being said the way they market there new latest and greatest products is NOT vary good!
    example.... the power grid system... IMO was rushed to market and billed as the latest & gratest expandable ingition system... but when
    they released the [email protected]$379.99 and the [email protected]$359.99 with the soon to be released 7761 witch is the slew rate time base rev control module with a avatarized price of $ 259.00 and did not have them ready for release for a about a year! NOT good! they are available now though for $$$503.99 kinda bait and switch and misleading IMO... cost now for a grid system with slew rate time based rev limiting including the can bus $1,315.96 (jeggs) cost for a
    7531$829,99 (jeggs) the grid offers more retards and better software with a usb connection... the 7531 does the same functions with less retards and has
    a serial connection so downloads are slower, thats a $485 dollar differance to make my latest & greatest power grid ignition system do the job that my 7531 does now!!!! yes the software does download fast, yes it has more retards of witch I will never use in the boat... I guess what I'm saying is if I would have known they were going to released that module a year later and at a cost of twice of what was originally avatarized I would not have bought it....I could use less retards and more timers and a timer that times in hundredths would be cool also, so theres my take on MSD products.... like um, own um, use um... just wish they would not have pulled what i consider the classic bait & switch move! Gary, boat#333

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    like most electronics, once you let the magic smoke out of the box, you can't put it back in.....
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