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    Are electric brakes ok on a boar trailor .the state is making me put brakes on my trailor



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    I've had electric brakes on several boat trailers for many years. They work flawlessly. Never do surge brakes again. I have them on my 21' Daytona boat trailer, my old 21' Mojave trailer, my dads 21' mojave trailer, and my dad's pontoon boat trailer. Not a single problem. Not that it applies but on my enclosed race trailer too.

    One time I spent the dough on the nice disc brake surge kit, yep they fried themselves on a long downhill grade on the way to the river. I ended up cutting the brake lines to get home. I installed the electric brakes with the prodigy controller in the truck and never looked back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by widowmaker View Post
    I've had electric brakes on several boat trailers for many years. They work flawlessly. Never do surge brakes again. I have them on my 21' Daytona boat trailer, my old 21' Mojave trailer, my dads 21' mojave trailer, and my dad's pontoon boat trailer. Not a single problem. Not that it applies but on my enclosed race trailer too.

    One time I spent the dough on the nice disc brake surge kit, yep they fried themselves on a long downhill grade on the way to the river. I ended up cutting the brake lines to get home. I installed the electric brakes with the prodigy controller in the truck and never looked back.
    I need to do this. ....are you talking electric disc brakes? I have a removable tongue and the brakes no longer function..but i need them for sure. (electric that is) ..especially hooking it up and launching it with a suzuki samurai i think the electric brakes w/a controlelr would help out. Who sells them reasonable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by my70455 View Post
    .the state is making me put brakes on my trailor


    Why? Is this for the 16 Tahiti listed in your profile?

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    I just ordered electric drum brakes for my 21 Daytona trailer, I'm installing them on both axles,
    I've had surge brakes on one axle
    But had to bypass them last year and since I'm going to use my Jeep to pull it
    I figured electric was the way go.

    I've heard nothing but good about the prodigy controller


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    Electric drum brakes. Good call Outlaw, I have them on one axle on the 21. Was thinking about going to 2 but don't really need it considering the only truck I use to tow it with is a diesel 2500. It's so nice to reach down and hit the brake controller when going down a hill without hitting the pedal.
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    so are these drums the same ones used on travel trailers or is there a special marine grade one? I definitely want to do it. I'm surprised how much even just a 21 daytona makes it harder to stop w/ no brakes to help. I was thinking just on one axle too.
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    they offer galvanized, but the trailer guy told me no need to buy anything special, few miles up the road and they will be dry anyway

    I ordered 10" x 2" for 3500lb axle, 5 x 4-1/2 BC, the only option was the bolt pattern on the backing plate, mine has the "Dexter" style axle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldsquirt View Post
    Why? Is this for the 16 Tahiti listed in your profile?
    No 18 foot southwind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    they offer galvanized, but the trailer guy told me no need to buy anything special, few miles up the road and they will be dry anyway

    I ordered 10" x 2" for 3500lb axle, 5 x 4-1/2 BC, the only option was the bolt pattern on the backing plate, mine has the "Dexter" style axle


    The best prices I found were at etrailer.com.

    Paul, those are the exact ones I ordered from Dexter

    You will need, hubs, and drums, I did bearings while I was in there too. 10 gauge wire from the brakes to the trailer connector. The prodigy brake controller is what I have and it has worked flawlessly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by my70455 View Post
    No 18 foot southwind
    Still shouldn't be "required". I'll bet the vast majority of boat trailers in that size range have never required brakes. Not saying it might not be a good idea...... Did they give you an explanation(i.e. vehicle code statute) for why they say you must install brakes?

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    It might be like Michigan A two axle trailer required brakes on at lest one axle, some states require a break away system so if the trailer comes unhooked that the brakes will lock up.

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    State By State Braking Laws
    From the Digest of Motor Laws / AAA / Edition 73
    State State DOT or DMV Phone Number State DOT or DMV Web Address Width Height Max Total Length Max Trailer Length Trailer Braking System Requirements
    Alabama 334-242-6358 www.dot.state.al.us 102" 13' 6" N/A 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Alaska 907-465-3900 www.dot.state.ak.us 102" 14' 75' 40' Required over 5000 lbs. GVW
    Arizona 602-712-7227 www.azdot.gov 102" 13' 6" 65' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Arkansas 501-569-2612 www.ahtd.state.ar.us 102" 13' 6" 65' 53.5' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW / all trailers weighing 1500 lbs or more shall have brakes on all wheels
    California 916-654-5266 www.dot.ca.gov 102" 14' 65' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW / on at least 2 wheels
    Colorado 800-999-4997 www.dot.state.co.us 102" 14' 6" 70' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Connecticut 860-594-3000 www.dot.state.ct.us 102" 13' 6" 60' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels. All trailers over 8000 lbs. GVW, shall be capable of braking by foot or hand.
    Delaware 302-760-2080 www.deldot.net 102" 13' 6" 65' 40' Every motor vehicle when operated on a highway shall be equipped with brakes adequate to control the movemant, and to stop and hold such vehicle and any trailer attached thereto, including 2 separate means of applying the brakes.
    Dist. Columbia 202-673-6813 www.ddot.dc.gov/main.shtm N/A 13' 6" 85' 60' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels
    Florida 850-414-4100 www.dot.state.fl.us 102" 13' 6" 65' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels.
    Georgia 404-656-5267 www.dot.state.ga.us 102" 13' 6" 60' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels.
    Hawaii 808-587-2150 www.state.hi.us/dot/ 108" 14' 65' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Idaho 208-334-8000 www.itd.idaho.gov 102" 14' 75' 48' Trailers with a unladen weight of 1500 lbs. Must have independent braking system
    Illinois 217-782-7820 www.dot.state.il.us/ 102" 13' 6" 65' 60' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Indiana 317-232-5533 www.in.gov/dot/ 102" 13' 6" 65' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Iowa 515-239-1101 www.dot.state.ia.us 102" 13' 6" 70' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Kansas 785-296-3566 www.ksdot.org 102" 14' 65' N/A Every combination of vehicles shall have a service breaking system, which will stop such combination within 40 feet from an initial speed of 20 mph.
    Kentucky 502-564-4890 www.kytc.state.ky.us 96" 13' 6" 63' N/A Kentucky law does not specifically require brakes on trailers, however, vehicles singular or in combination must be able to stop within distance specified by statute.
    Louisiana 225-379-1100 www.dotd.state.la.us 96" 13' 6" 70' 40' Required over 3000 lbs., GVW On all wheels.
    Maine 207-624-3000 www.maine.gov/mdot 102" 13' 6" 65' 48' Required over 3000 lbs., GVW On all wheels.
    Maryland 410-865-1142 www.mdot.state.md.us/ 102" 13' 6" 55' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW. Not required on all wheels if trailer does not exceed 40% of the GVW of the towing vehicle. Over 10,000 lbs required on all wheels
    Massachusetts 617-973-7800 www.state.ma.us/mhd/ 102" 13' 6" 65' 40' Every trailer having an unladed weight of more than 10,000 lbs shall be equipped with air or electric brakes.
    Michigan 517-373-2090 www.michigan.gov/mdot 102" 12' 6" 65' 45' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Minnesota 651-296-3000 www.dot.state.mn.us/ 102" 13' 6" 60' 45' A trailer with a gross weight of 3000 lbs, GVW or more, or a gross weight that exceeds the empty weight of the towing vehicle, must be equipped with brakes that can adequately control the movement of and stop and hold the trailer.
    Mississippi 601-359-7001 www.mdot.state.ms.us 102" 13' 6" 53' 40' Required over 2000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels.
    Missouri 888-275-6636 www.modot.state.mo.us/ 102" 13' 6" 55' / 65' N/A Independent breaking system not required except on trailers coupled by a 5th wheel & kingpin.
    Montana 406-444-6200 www.mdt.state.mt.us 102" 14' 65' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels. Less than 3000 lbs GVW not required if the total weight of the trailer does not exceed 40% of the GVW of the towing vehicle.
    Nebraska 402-471-2281 www.dmv.state.ne.us 102" 14' 6" 65' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW Over 6500 lbs GVW require brakes on all wheels.
    Nevada 775-888-7000 www.nevadadot.com 102" 14' 70' N/A Required over 1500 lbs. GVW, On all wheels.
    New Hampshire 603-271-3734 www.state.nh.us/dot 102" 13' 6" N/A 48' Every trailer shall at a speed of 20 mph be capable of stopping within a distance of 30 feet.
    New Jersey 609-530-3536 www.state.nj.us/transportation/ 102" 13' 6" 50' 40' Every trailer must be equipped with brakes and be synchronized with towed vehicle.
    New Mexico 505-827-5100 www.nmshtd.state.nm.us 102" 14' 75' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    New York 518-457-6195 www.dot.state.ny.us 102" 13' 6" 65' 48' Required on trailers that weigh over 1000 lbs. / adequate brakes requires over 3000 lb GVW
    North Carolina 919-733-2522 www.ncdot.org 96" 13' 6" 60' 35' Required over 4000 lbs. GVW
    North Dakota 701-328-2500 www.nd.gov/dot 102" 14' 75' 53' Every trailer must be equipped with adequate brakes.
    Ohio 614-466-2335 www.dot.state.oh.us 102" 13' 6" 65' 40' Brakes required if the trailer has an empty weight of over 2000 lbs
    Oklahoma 405-522-8000 www.okladot.state.ok.us 102" 13' 6" 65' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Oregon 888-ASK-ODOT www.odot.state.or.us/home 102" 14' 65' 45' Independent braking system not required but combination of vehicles must stop within legal limits.
    Pennsylvania 717-787-2838 www.dot.state.pa.us/ 102" 13' 6" 60' N/A Every trailer must be equipped with adequate brakes.
    Rhode Island 401-222-2481 www.dot.state.ri.us 102" 13' 6" 60' N/A Required over 4000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels.
    South Carolina 803-737-2314 www.dot.state.sc.us/ 102" 13' 6" N/A 48' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW, On all wheels. Under 3001 lbs brakes not required unless trailer exceeds 40% of the towing vehicle gross weight.
    South Dakota 605-773-3265 www.sddot.com N/A 14' N/A N/A Required on all trailers.
    Tennessee 615-741-2848 www.tdot.state.tn.us/ 102" 13' 6" N/A N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Texas 512-463-8588 www.dot.state.tx.us/txdot.htm 102" 13' 6" 65' N/A Required over 4500 lbs. GVW
    Utah 801-965-4559 www.dot.state.ut.us 102" 14' 65' 40' Every combination of vehicle shall at a speed of 20 mph be capable of stopping within a distance of 40 feet.
    Vermont 802-828-2657 www.aot.state.vt.us 102" 13' 6" 65' 45' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW on at least 1 axle. Over 6000 lbs GVW required on all wheels
    Virginia 804-786-2801 http://virginiadot.org/ 102" 13' 6" 65' 45' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Washington 360-705-7000 www.wsdot.wa.gov 102" 14' 60' N/A Required on all trailers on all wheels. Under 3000 lbs not required unless trailer exceeds 40% of the towing vehicle gross weight.
    West Virginia 800-642-9066 www.wvdot.com 102" 13' 6" 75' 40' Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Wisconsin 608-266-1466 www.dot.wisconsin.gov/ 102" 13' 6" 60' N/A Required over 3000 lbs. GVW
    Wyoming 307-777-4714 http://wydotweb.state.wy.us 102" 14' 65' 45' Every combination of vehicle shall at a speed of 20 mph be capable of stopping within a distance of 40 feet.
    NOTE: ROAD KING TRAILERS ASSUMES NO LIABILITY IN THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ABOVE.
    WE SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION OR TO VERIFY THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AS STATE LAWS CHANGE OFTEN, USE THE SUPPLIED PHONE NUMBERS OR WEB SITES FOR THE SPECIFIC STATE IN QUESTION.
    INFORMATION PROVIDED FROM THE AAA DIGEST OF MOTOR LAWS EDITION #73

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    Steve, that's a nice looooong list. Perhaps a link would have sufficed?

    By the way, the information given for Nevada, the OP's state, is incorrect in as much as it is incomplete. This is also why I asked the OP for the explanation he was given by "the state" requiring him to retrofit his existing trailer with brakes. This is not going to be an inexpensive job......

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