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    Hi, I have a tunnel bottom, 454, bell housing, top mount starter, normal rotation, berkeley

    my starter alignment. just kicking my butt on how to align an upper starter. sometimes it doesn't catch, sometimes it catches and spins off after a few cranks. all parts fairly new. (starter from cp performance and standard flex plate from summit, upper 12:00 position) I can get engine started, but embraressing with engine not always catching/loud spin off. been like this since installation

    - should I not use a standard flex plate?

    - any tricks on how you align the starter> easy to pull, hard to see wear marks on ring without pulling engine, even then, unsure.

    just looking for the easiest aproach/fixes first.

    thanks for your thoughts
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    Do you have it shimmed at all? If so pull a shim out.
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    no shims. wish it was that easy. i am asking if there is a trick to shimming. I tried sticking a shim on top, no luck. then moved shm to bottom, no luck. may switch back to my bottom mount starter - yikes! what a pain in a jet boat.

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    I hear ya. I've changed one too many on the boat ramp.

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    can you post pics? who made your bellhousing/ ? I have been fighting that same issue and i almost have mine dialed innow.
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    Is your flexplate bent at all? Sounds like one time it catches and sometimes its too far away or too close.

    Just a thought....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Hi, I have a tunnel bottom, 454, bell housing, top mount starter, normal rotation, berkeley

    my starter alignment. just kicking my butt on how to align an upper starter. sometimes it doesn't catch, sometimes it catches and spins off after a few cranks. all parts fairly new. (starter from cp performance and standard flex plate from summit, upper 12:00 position) I can get engine started, but embraressing with engine not always catching/loud spin off. been like this since installation

    - should I not use a standard flex plate?

    - any tricks on how you align the starter> easy to pull, hard to see wear marks on ring without pulling engine, even then, unsure.

    just looking for the easiest aproach/fixes first.

    thanks for your thoughts
    Is the flex-plate on backwards?

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    all good questions.

    - gave up and put the normal/bottom mount starter back in. works fine. see how long it lasts, hopefully a season of getting wet now and then.

    - CP performance for bellhousing, essentially brand new

    - starter from CP as well I think, actually hardin maybe. only been on the water 1/2 dozen times.

    - flex plate from summit racing, new as well. still shiny gold. is it warped? dunno (but normal starter spins fine/easy) is it backwards? dunno - can it be? I'll guess I'd have problems with a standard starter - but i dont.

    - pics? not worth posting. pretty shiny bellhousing and nice expensive starter. everything mounted easy/fine.

    - boat itself is gorgeous! I did the entire build including hull/paint/interior/wiring/engine build/jet, all from scratch except a bare hull. took 3 months total. 4,000 invested. active duty military - just in my spare time. will sell it next year! build another v-drive. right now I'm building a 70 mach 1

    - whats kicking my butt now? trailer fenders. I need them to slide in/out. out for normal trailering. "in" (or off if I have to) to sneak the boat through that tight garage door. I have 1/4 inch clearence on the tires after chopping axle. if I leave fenders in tight, doubt boat will glide on/off easily. really kicking my butt to design. eventually I''ll just start welding! I'm a two-time welder, normally takes me two times to get it right! LOL Just welded in the frame on the mach 1. man - kicked my butt, but got it done!
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    Man youve done a great job!! I bought a mini starter from CP a few years back and had so much trouble whith it I sent it back
    the one they sent was a chrome deal that woundnt ground well....same as you, tried shimming, with no luck
    bought a power-master mini...TA-DA no more problems

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