Not the first time ive met him but it is the first time i spent a couple days with him working side by side learning how to laminate. Man does he work hard and get around like a 25year old. Haha...He did the bottom on my TX20 and I had him come to my shop this week and do some extra stuff to help with my shut down. Ervin is a stand up Guy and a great teacher. I thoroughly enjoyed our time together and snagged me a pic of the Ole man! Ervin I hope you enjoyed seeing one of your condor tx-18's and your work is awesome!! Thanks for the time and work!!!