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    Hello all, I purchased a Willis/Sanger jet tunnel a few weeks ago and am to the point now to start trying to get some tuning done with this thing. I know some of you think these are shtty hulls to make go fast, but I am looking for a high 80 to bottom 90 for now. Boat is pretty decent as it sits but not really up to my standards as a show piece. I just want to have some fun for the rest of the summer and restore it this winter if I like it. The guy I bought the hull from mainly just putted it around and wanted a rooster tail..... I will show pics of how it was setup and where im at now. I will have some speed numbers tomorrow. I tried it a little last week and im turning the a/b 5700 so far and I have some tuning left on the motor, but didnt get any speed numbers.

    The pump had a straight droop on it and a pile of wedge that I took off. It has -3 deg on the ride plate. Also I am supplying a pic of the loader, havent looked for the shoe yet. I think this loader is a cheapy let me know what you think...

    I also have a race diverter 3.145 id

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    not really knowing anything about how to make a pump perform, i think the set up in the pics looks like the water is bending back and forth a lot before the exit.

    it is a sweet looking boat.

    why are they not preferred as speed is concerned?

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    I know there was a thread a while back where they were saying they were an 85mph boat tops without having a blower.... This design hull was built for a v drive hydro from what I have gathered on here. I no longer have the straight with all the wedge just the droop and 1 wedge. Thanks for the compliment.

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    that "loader" is what's known as a speed grate. don't see any provision for a shoe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp298 View Post
    that "loader" is what's known as a speed grate. don't see any provision for a shoe...

    So should upgrade or leave it alone for now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragracr View Post
    So should upgrade or leave it alone for now?
    leave it alone. run the long droop if you like, ditch those extensions. the bottom turn pin is way too long, and causes huge drag. a rudder hanging off of it is even worse drag. get a pin that fits, or cut that one so it's flush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp298 View Post
    leave it alone. run the long droop if you like, ditch those extensions. the bottom turn pin is way too long, and causes huge drag. a rudder hanging off of it is even worse drag. get a pin that fits, or cut that one so it's flush.

    Will do before i go. Thanks

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    The place diverter has a 3.125 reducer in it.

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    The guy you should talk to is here on the boards..goes by sanger rat..he is located in Michigan. He can give you expert advise on Sanger Jet Hydros...

    sanger rats jet hydro boat E-85 running on CORN - YouTube
    This is his jet hydro running on E85..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tittyman View Post
    The guy you should talk to is here on the boards..goes by sanger rat..he is located in Michigan. He can give you expert advise on Sanger Jet Hydros...

    sanger rats jet hydro boat E-85 running on CORN - YouTube
    This is his jet hydro running on E85..
    Thanks but I'm no expert. I tried so many different combinations it wasn't funny. In the end I just felt like I was chasing my tail. What it really needed was some bottom work to get rid of the flat keel.
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    The only blab's I will even be a part of is just when it is me they are talking about. Aaaah yes I can see a few good looking shiny tall deck motors on the beach, with barely enough fuel to get back to the launch saying, "Holy crap how fast you think that Daytona was going man? That's like the 20th time he's gone by today?"

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    Listen to BP he'll set you straight.
    Quote Originally Posted by One More Year View Post
    The only blab's I will even be a part of is just when it is me they are talking about. Aaaah yes I can see a few good looking shiny tall deck motors on the beach, with barely enough fuel to get back to the launch saying, "Holy crap how fast you think that Daytona was going man? That's like the 20th time he's gone by today?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanger rat View Post
    Thanks but I'm no expert. I tried so many different combinations it wasn't funny. In the end I just felt like I was chasing my tail. What it really needed was some bottom work to get rid of the flat keel.
    Nah ,it wasnt fast enough for you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragracr View Post
    Hello all, I purchased a Willis/Sanger jet tunnel a few weeks ago and am to the point now to start trying to get some tuning done with this thing. I know some of you think these are shtty hulls to make go fast, but I am looking for a high 80 to bottom 90 for now. Boat is pretty decent as it sits but not really up to my standards as a show piece. I just want to have some fun for the rest of the summer and restore it this winter if I like it. The guy I bought the hull from mainly just putted it around and wanted a rooster tail..... I will show pics of how it was setup and where im at now. I will have some speed numbers tomorrow. I tried it a little last week and im turning the a/b 5700 so far and I have some tuning left on the motor, but didnt get any speed numbers.

    The pump had a straight droop on it and a pile of wedge that I took off. It has -3 deg on the ride plate. Also I am supplying a pic of the loader, havent looked for the shoe yet. I think this loader is a cheapy let me know what you think...

    I also have a race diverter 3.145 id

    Thanks!
    Nice color I must say

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    The boat looks really clean and very nice!!
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