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    Good morning good people! Got a BBF 460 with a fresh top end.. Took it out to break her in. Ran incredibly all day! Very impressed with this thing... On about the 4th run. The thing wouldn't start. It turns over, but won't fire... I thought initially I had run out of gas, but after inspecting the tanks I discovered that wasn't true. Later I discovered that my electronic fuel pump is not making any noise like it had been when I turned the key, as well as there is no fuel being delivered into my see through fuel filter... Can I test this thing? A small amount of water did splash over the back, again small,.......is it possible since the wires are exposed that I shorted this thing out??? Also, anyone have any suggestions on a good "marine" friendly replacement???

    Oh,........and excuse me for my lack of correct motor/engine terminology....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    Good morning good people! Got a BBF 460 with a fresh top end.. Took it out to break her in. Ran incredibly all day! Very impressed with this thing... On about the 4th run. The thing wouldn't start. It turns over, but won't fire... I thought initially I had run out of gas, but after inspecting the tanks I discovered that wasn't true. Later I discovered that my electronic fuel pump is not making any noise like it had been when I turned the key, as well as there is no fuel being delivered into my see through fuel filter... Can I test this thing? A small amount of water did splash over the back, again small,.......is it possible since the wires are exposed that I shorted this thing out??? Also, anyone have any suggestions on a good "marine" friendly replacement???

    Oh,........and excuse me for my lack of correct motor/engine terminology....

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    That looks more like the fuel tank selctor. I am betting you have a mechincal pump on your boat. Take a look on the port side of the motor and I bet you will see you fuel pump there.
    If you are not getting fuel to your filter you have a clog in the line somewhere. start at the tanks and work forward.
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    That switch is energized by a dash switch and when de-energized it defaults to the oposite tank personally don't care for them , we use manual switching valves , used to be able to get them at Napa (Chevy Trucks with aux tanks used them )

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    If you take a close look at the fuel selector, you will see it states "not for marine use"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturat View Post
    That looks more like the fuel tank selctor. I am betting you have a mechincal pump on your boat. Take a look on the port side of the motor and I bet you will see you fuel pump there.
    If you are not getting fuel to your filter you have a clog in the line somewhere. start at the tanks and work forward.
    Tank selector??? Ouch! Embarrassing......

    How about this???

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    ...and shouldn't I hear it sputter when I turn the ignition key on... it was making like a put put put.. sound before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    Tank selector??? Ouch! Embarrassing......

    How about this???

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    ...and shouldn't I hear it sputter when I turn the ignition key on... it was making like a put put put.. sound before...
    I know just enough to get me in trouble and I have no clue what that is.. IF that is a fuel pump of sorts it sure looks small to me and I would not want it feeding my engine..
    Take a look at the bottom corner on the right side for something like this.. right by the oil filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturat View Post
    I know just enough to get me in trouble and I have no clue what that is.. IF that is a fuel pump of sorts it sure looks small to me and I would not want it feeding my engine..
    Take a look at the bottom corner on the right side for something like this.. right by the oil filter.
    I've got nothing up front. That rediculous looking thing actually IS the fuel filter... Its an Airtex / 30 gph or somethinother....

    Airtex E8251 - Electric Fuel Pump

    It seems i'm due for an upgrade....

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    ...and my sad looking fuel delivery....

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    Like I said, when I turn the key on now, I get no put put put sound that I WAS getting before...

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    I would replace it with something at least 5-7 psi and more GPH.
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    The 3 to 5 psi on that fuel pump is not enough psi for a carb. As said, you need at least 5 to 7. Get like a Holley blue, 110 GPH. And upgrade your fuel filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol Blue View Post
    The 3 to 5 psi on that fuel pump is not enough psi for a carb. As said, you need at least 5 to 7. Get like a Holley blue, 110 GPH. And upgrade your fuel filter.
    Is it that simple to upgrade??? Just maybe different hoses... Fuel pump & filter???
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    Do you have a water fuel sep? If so just run that as your filter(21-10 micron). I have a 1/4 npt (3/8 fuel line) water fuel sep and a electric carter (6psi) if your interested...pm me for details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    Is it that simple to upgrade??? Just maybe different hoses... Fuel pump & filter???
    Not that difficult. You should also add a relay/circuit breaker kit to power the fuel pump for better pump performance. What kind of Carb are you running?

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