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    Who has a big heavy tugboat? Who wants to go faster? Who knows about making big heavy boats go fast?


    Lots of threads and advice and reading on small boats with big HP going fast/quick. How bout tug boats? Who has one and who wants it faster. Do the same rules apply to a 18/19 foot, 300-500 lbs hull? What about a 21' 2'000 hull. The phisicys have to be different. Any one have data on what to look for? Do the same rules apply? Wanna start playing with my set up.

    I feel there is more. I have only changed ride plate angle and diverter angle. I have had a max of 83. I see many guys playing with loaders and shoes and gaining 3-10 HP. Why can't I gain a few or 6? 90 would kick ass for a 21 deck weighin in a over one ton with a single carb N/A motor on "PUMP" gas. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by danhercules View Post
    Who has a big heavy tugboat? Who wants to go faster? Who knows about making big heavy boats go fast?


    Lots of threads and advice and reading on small boats with big HP going fast/quick. How bout tug boats? Who has one and who wants it faster. Do the same rules apply to a 18/19 foot, 300-500 lbs hull? What about a 21' 2'000 hull. The phisicys have to be different. Any one have data on what to look for? Do the same rules apply? Wanna start playing with my set up.

    I feel there is more. I have only changed ride plate angle and diverter angle. I have had a max of 83. I see many guys playing with loaders and shoes and gaining 3-10 HP. Why can't I gain a few or 6? 90 would kick ass for a 21 deck weighin in a over one ton with a single carb N/A motor on "PUMP" gas. LOL
    You should know that one! Lots of $$$$$....I'd never seen it in person but have read and heard about Tim's Southwind cruiser. I heard that thing hauled the mail.

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    Big Proppa had a spectra that ran pretty good. i think he said it would run in the 80's maybe even 90's i do not recall. It had his blower motor from his red hydro in it though

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    through a small 150 shot on it!!!!!

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    The 21 I had did mid 80's with a mild 540......then switched it to a blown 540 had Capps do a setback and bottom to it and hitech setup the pump and did a lake test to dial it in.....after all that I seen a best of 120mph checked by gps and radar gun

    You can make a heavy boat run just need the right setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhercules View Post
    Who has a big heavy tugboat? Who wants to go faster? Who knows about making big heavy boats go fast?


    Lots of threads and advice and reading on small boats with big HP going fast/quick. How bout tug boats? Who has one and who wants it faster. Do the same rules apply to a 18/19 foot, 300-500 lbs hull? What about a 21' 2'000 hull. The phisicys have to be different. Any one have data on what to look for? Do the same rules apply? Wanna start playing with my set up.

    I feel there is more. I have only changed ride plate angle and diverter angle. I have had a max of 83. I see many guys playing with loaders and shoes and gaining 3-10 HP. Why can't I gain a few or 6? 90 would kick ass for a 21 deck weighin in a over one ton with a single carb N/A motor on "PUMP" gas. LOL
    what does the old deck boat weigh anyway? my 21 lake ready weighs 2900
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    Quote Originally Posted by danhercules View Post
    Who has a big heavy tugboat? Who wants to go faster? Who knows about making big heavy boats go fast?


    Lots of threads and advice and reading on small boats with big HP going fast/quick. How bout tug boats? Who has one and who wants it faster. Do the same rules apply to a 18/19 foot, 300-500 lbs hull? What about a 21' 2'000 hull. The phisicys have to be different. Any one have data on what to look for? Do the same rules apply? Wanna start playing with my set up.

    I feel there is more. I have only changed ride plate angle and diverter angle. I have had a max of 83. I see many guys playing with loaders and shoes and gaining 3-10 HP. Why can't I gain a few or 6? 90 would kick ass for a 21 deck weighin in a over one ton with a single carb N/A motor on "PUMP" gas. LOL
    If you don't have enough power to pick that platform up out of the water and set it on the ride plate then you need to start looking at ways to reduce the drag on the outer sponsons. I would consider putting some air breaks or steps in the bottom of the outer sponsons to reduce drag. Its the same theory they are using on big boats V's and tunnels. I did this on a v-drive tunnel that basically is big heavy and doesn't really go fast enough to fly. I added 3 steps and lifting strakes. It still rides heavy in the water but the contact area was reduced substantially and you can see lots of turbulance blowing off the boat. Made a large difference. Also improved excelleration and crusing economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    what does the old deck boat weigh anyway? my 21 lake ready weighs 2900
    Bout 3600 lbs river ready, no passengers or coolers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    You should know that one! Lots of $$$$$....I'd never seen it in person but have read and heard about Tim's Southwind cruiser. I heard that thing hauled the mail.
    If I remember correct, I think he was low 80's. Not bad at all.


    Tyson also had the same hull, with close to my same motor, he was also in the low 80's.


    I am just wondering if there is more in just the set up, or because its zoo heavy, need more power first. Hmmmmmm


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    what about that "here comes wifey" boat. same hull as yours and i bet that thing has to do 100+. I bet that guy would have some tips and tricks to make your boat go fast.. at least almost as fast as me that is..

    miss ya dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartel View Post

    what about that "here comes wifey" boat. same hull as yours and i bet that thing has to do 100+. I bet that guy would have some tips and tricks to make your boat go fast.. at least almost as fast as me that is..

    miss ya dan
    Not nearly as heavy I bet, plus LOTS more HP
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    ya i know but i bet some of the rigging/set up tips would work on dans boat since they are the same hull for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartel View Post

    what about that "here comes wifey" boat. same hull as yours and i bet that thing has to do 100+. I bet that guy would have some tips and tricks to make your boat go fast.. at least almost as fast as me that is..

    miss ya dan
    I am thinking I need to reword my post. Of corse gobbs of HP and light boat = fast.

    There are plenty of 95-100 mph "slow" boats, tying to get a few more HP. There is a lot of data and info on small hulls to get pointed in the right direction.

    I guess what I am asking, do the same rules apply, or is there different approch to set up a bigger, heavier boat?

    Here Comes Wifey is NOT the norm. That thing was a beast.


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    physicis is physicis. cant change those rules. i would say set up the boat to get as much out of the water as possible. if you already have the set up right. then your only answer is MORE HP!!!

    what RPM do you run all in dan?

    Your boat rocks and sounds bad ass. I would just enjoy it. I think its set up about as fast as its going to go with your current set up. You could always change to E85 or some other exotic set up but then you cant fill up on the water. and that is important in a jet boat.
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