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    Since my other project is going to take a lot longer than I want to see the water (68 Stevens V-Drive) and isn't ideally suited for running on the Mississippi, I thought I'd look for something ready to run or close to ready to run just to start exploring the river with. After comparing what was available in my area, I bought a 77 19' sleekcraft jet. The hull looks solid, paint is wasted (going to sand down to the jel and see if it's usable. It supposedly has a rebuilt 440 in it that has never been fired. It's missing a few minor parts like water pump, hoses, and fuel pump but, nothing major. The interior is pretty well shot (might be salvagable for patterns). It has a jacuzi jet on it. I'm not familiar with Sleekcrafts, Jets or for that matter Mopars. I'm just trying to come up with a plan of attack to get this on the water in a month or so when the floods go away and we can go out and play.
    My thoughts:
    1. Pull the motor and go through it and make sure it's what was quoted or build it back how it should be.
    2. Check entire boat for soft spots and address any needed repairs
    3. Sand ugly paint off deck and see if jel is still intact or spray it and call it good for the summer
    4. Figure out how to inspect the jet and get it done
    5. Either take the interior out and make new seats (i'll do the wood, covers by local upholstery shop) or bolt the 2 new buckets for the Stevens in and call it good for the summer. Back seat passengers are over rated anyways.
    6. Put the motor back in, fire it up and make sure everything is working (break it in nice)
    7. Go play

    What have I missed or what do I need to know about this new hole in the water which i'm getting ready to pour money into?

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    If they said it was rebuilt then I would pull the plugs and check them. You should be able to see if it was run. Then I would dump about a half cup of oil in to the cylinders and turn the engine over by hand about 10 times. Just to be safe I would also pull the valve covers and dump oil over the rocker arms, push rods and valve springs. Change the oil and check the timing.
    Depending on how long it sat or if they even did this when it was built. You might want to get number one piston up the tdc on the compression stroke and pull the distibutor. Using the adapter link you can take a drill and run the oil pump to pre lub the system. Then put the distributor in. This could even be done in place of pulling the valve covers.

    Just my thoughts and maybe some more ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    Since my other project is going to take a lot longer than I want to see the water (68 Stevens V-Drive) and isn't ideally suited for running on the Mississippi, I thought I'd look for something ready to run or close to ready to run just to start exploring the river with. After comparing what was available in my area, I bought a 77 19' sleekcraft jet. The hull looks solid, paint is wasted (going to sand down to the jel and see if it's usable. It supposedly has a rebuilt 440 in it that has never been fired. It's missing a few minor parts like water pump, hoses, and fuel pump but, nothing major. The interior is pretty well shot (might be salvagable for patterns). It has a jacuzi jet on it. I'm not familiar with Sleekcrafts, Jets or for that matter Mopars. I'm just trying to come up with a plan of attack to get this on the water in a month or so when the floods go away and we can go out and play.
    My thoughts:
    1. Pull the motor and go through it and make sure it's what was quoted or build it back how it should be.
    2. Check entire boat for soft spots and address any needed repairs
    3. Sand ugly paint off deck and see if jel is still intact or spray it and call it good for the summer
    4. Figure out how to inspect the jet and get it done
    5. Either take the interior out and make new seats (i'll do the wood, covers by local upholstery shop) or bolt the 2 new buckets for the Stevens in and call it good for the summer. Back seat passengers are over rated anyways.
    6. Put the motor back in, fire it up and make sure everything is working (break it in nice)
    7. Go play

    What have I missed or what do I need to know about this new hole in the water which i'm getting ready to pour money into?
    Couple things jump out at me. You say it's missing a water pump? Jets don't have/need a water pump. They get their cooling water from the jet pump itself. Unless it's some kind of atypical closed loop radiator cooling deal (highly unlikely, but possible). It should have a block off plate where the water pump used to mount though.

    Something like this (although this one's off a BBF)



    Do you know if the Jacuzzi is a WJ or a YJ? Maybe some pictures of it. I don't know squat about Jacuzzis but some of these guys know them, and have even rebuilt them.

    I would think that if the motor is complete, you could prime it via a drill, make sure it's oiling o.k. rotate the crank by hand and give it a go (provided all the necessary parts are on it). It's a shame you couldn't convince the seller to make it run for ya.

    It does seem more times than not when a motor is sold as (new) and (never run), and the seller doesn't start it for them, they take a shit on the new owner for whatever reason.
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    thanks, i thought about that... but i'm thinking for the $100 in gaskets i want to take it all apart and see exactly what parts are in it. I doubt when I pick it up he'll have the receipts. It will help with planning the mandatory winter let's make it faster planning

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    the wj is a mixed flow pump, the jacuzzi yj is not, hope that you have a wj you won't be making and world record speeds with yj but if you got a wj you have a little more luck, a couple parts dealers offer energizer kits you can put on them to convert them to a mixed flow pump that uses the common parts that berk's and at's use. Well worth the money. Replacement parts are pretty readily available through most jet dealers and north american marine jet

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    thanks, i thought about that... but i'm thinking for the $100 in gaskets i want to take it all apart and see exactly what parts are in it.
    I feel a rebuild coming on.

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    jacuzzi's are solid pumps, and soooo easy to build, wearrings are dirt cheap for them. sounds like a cool project! congrats and welcome to the site

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    Here is a pic of the plate that made me think it was missing a water pump. At least on a V-drive it's where the pump goes. Wrong plate?

    And a pump pic. I can't tell one from the other just looking. But it has a data plate on it and i'll look when i pick it up

    and the project as it sits now.

    i guess i should have hosted them someplace else so they weren't so small

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    I think I've figured out a couple of the answers. Thanks for all the help so far. It appears it is a WJ pump and the plate on the front of the engine is a vdrive plate so if he put the front cam plug in i don't need to do anything there. For water all i should have to do is thread the small water holes and run lines with AN fittings to them. Does the water routing go from the pump to a T into the two sides of the blockoff plate, then out the thermostat housing into another T with water going to the headers and out the overflow? I understand the header line needs a T as well. Or is it better to go from the pump to the thermostat then out the head ports in the block plate then t them to the headers/overflow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    I think I've figured out a couple of the answers. Thanks for all the help so far. It appears it is a WJ pump and the plate on the front of the engine is a vdrive plate so if he put the front cam plug in i don't need to do anything there. For water all i should have to do is thread the small water holes and run lines with AN fittings to them. Does the water routing go from the pump to a T into the two sides of the blockoff plate, then out the thermostat housing into another T with water going to the headers and out the overflow? I understand the header line needs a T as well. Or is it better to go from the pump to the thermostat then out the head ports in the block plate then t them to the headers/overflow?
    I'm not sure if I'm doing this 'link' correctly, but here's a plumbing thread that went back and forth for awhile.

    http://www.performanceboats.com//showthread.php?t=6571

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrynPas View Post
    I'm not sure if I'm doing this 'link' correctly, but here's a plumbing thread that went back and forth for awhile.

    http://www.performanceboats.com//showthread.php?t=6571
    Yay!!!!

    One of my threads got posted as a link......by someone else!!!!!
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    Oh yeah, Forgot to mention that the hull is a special mixture of speedcote, herculiner and rain-x, all blended together- good for another 8 mph top end.

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