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    So whats the real deal with droop snoots? On one (parts supplier) website, they claim the droop helps raise the back of the boat out of the water, increasing speed. On another (racers/parts) website, they claim the droop helps push down on the back of the boat.

    Which way is it really? They both cant be right, as they are totally 180 off from one and another.

    I am having problems getting the bow of my boat up at full speed, ran an easy 78 pushing tons of water, the spray from the side of the boat was in front of me. This was with the diverter all the way up. I know this was not very efficiant like this. I added four more degrees of wedge between the bowl and the droop, will test it later today.

    If the droop is really pushing down on the back, it in turn would want to raise the front, and I should keep it on. If it raises the back, it would want to drive the front down, and I think I should remove it.

    So.... whos right?
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    a droop lifts the transom, not pushes down on it best thing to do is just borrow a droop, see if it helps, then buy yourself 1

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    I have a droop, and am wondering if it is causing my problem or not. Here is a picture of my pump. I took the ride plate off and the boat handled tons better, porpous completly went away.

    Thanks, Ryan
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowboy View Post


    I have a droop, and am wondering if it is causing my problem or not. Here is a picture of my pump. I took the ride plate off and the boat handled tons better, porpous completly went away.

    Thanks, Ryan
    did ya try taking all those wedges out and just runnin the droop right to the bowl before pulling off the ride plate? you've got me wondering if your rideplate had too much or not enough angle and/or is was warped bad.

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    This boat did not act like this at all last year, All I did was set the pump back, and now it is slower. I had only a 6 degree wedge in it with the ride plate on. The boat would porpous badly at high speed, and almost throw you out of the boat. Changing the diverter all the way down would not help at all. The ride plate was not warped, and has braces on it to stop it from creating a hook. Seemed the higher I went with the ride plate, the better it got. Untill the ride plate was touching the pump. So I took it off, and it rides and handles tons better, but still way low in the front. What is causing the front to drop so badly?

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    it might be that someone needs to lay off the little debbie's and lighten the bow

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowboy View Post
    This boat did not act like this at all last year, All I did was set the pump back, and now it is slower. I had only a 6 degree wedge in it with the ride plate on. The boat would porpous badly at high speed, and almost throw you out of the boat. Changing the diverter all the way down would not help at all. The ride plate was not warped, and has braces on it to stop it from creating a hook. Seemed the higher I went with the ride plate, the better it got. Untill the ride plate was touching the pump. So I took it off, and it rides and handles tons better, but still way low in the front. What is causing the front to drop so badly?

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    take all those wedges out, put the plate back on at 4degrees and start over, something is a miss here. got any at wot pics? remember to make 1 change at a time, or you'll create more issues than you fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlsonauto View Post
    it might be that someone needs to lay off the little debbie's and lighten the bow

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    take all those wedges out, put the plate back on at 4degrees and start over, something is a miss here. got any at wot pics? remember to make 1 change at a time, or you'll create more issues than you fix

    I am going to try it as it is, I have been trying one change at a time, and it seems to be getting better. We will take some pictures tonight......... If my TRI-turbo friend ever gets done working on his.

    Then I will try what you recommended and go from there. Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowboy View Post


    I have a droop, and am wondering if it is causing my problem or not. Here is a picture of my pump. I took the ride plate off and the boat handled tons better, porpous completly went away.

    Thanks, Ryan

    Ditto on too much wedge. start with none and add them if needed.
    remember you just did a setback which gave those wedges more leverage

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    Did you blueprint the bottom along with that pump setback? Seems like a possible hook issue. You will just be fighting yourself unless you fix it.
    hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowboy View Post
    When (IF) you beat me, then you can tease me

    ON LAND OR SEA?????? ANYWAYS I WILL TEASE YOU REGARDLESS...... YOU KNOW I HAVE THE MEANS TO BEAT YOU I JUST CHOOSE NOT TO USE THAT ENGINE.

    HEY I BET IF YOU TAKE THAT HUGE ASS SHOE OFF OF THE BOTTOM OF YOUR BOAT IT WILL WORK BETTER


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    Put the plate back on the boat and set it at 4*-5* in relation to keel. I am assuming that you have a V bottom??? Take the wedges out and bolt the droop back on the pump. Then take a straight edge and lay it up to the bottom of the ride plate and check the distance between the straight edge and the bottom of the droop where the pin holds the nozzle on. An acceptable measurement between the two should be 3/4 to 1/2 inch. Use different size wedges to raise or lower the droop to get it within this measurement. Typically you will wedge down but you need to see where you are at since every boat/droop is not quite the same. This should get you real close on your hardware set up. If you still have a bad hop you should take a look at the condition of the bottom of your boat. You didn't mention were you were running for the rest of your hardware. Shoe, loader etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlsonauto View Post
    ON LAND OR SEA?????? ANYWAYS I WILL TEASE YOU REGARDLESS...... YOU KNOW I HAVE THE MAENS TO BEAT YOU I JUST CHOOSE NOT TO USE THAT ENGINE.

    HEY I BET IF YOU TAKE THAT HUGE ASS SHOE OFF OF THE BOTTOM OF YOUR BOAT IT WILL WORK BETTER


    SORRY I HAD TO

    The boat is a Make delta bottom boat, not the easiest to get to hook up. The boat does not have any hook.

    I was told by a shop to put a more agressive shoe on the boat, because my intake water pressure was only 10-15 psi full throttle. The shoe was 5/8 inch thick. I took the shoe off last night at the lake, took it for a ride, and the front was super light, problem gone. The agressive shoe was pulling the front down. On the way back to the landing with 4 people in the boat, we had 80 with a slight porpous.

    I am going to make a new shoe this morning, 1/4 inch thick, put the ride plate back on, and set it at 4 degrees up from the bottom of the hull. See if I can get it to handle a little better, tighten it up a little anyways.

    Then I will remove the wedges, at least we are getting somewhere now.

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