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    Default Machine for shoe or not??

    So I have done a lot of searching and reading around this site but can't seem to come to a conclusion whether or not I can just drill and tap for a shoe or if I have to machine the intake down further. The boat(1976 Sanger Super jet with JG pump) came with a small ride plate. Which I plan on making a longer one this winter. Here are some pic's. Any advise/Info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you




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    Ity looks like You'r intake has allready had some macchinework done to it. Some thing still does not look right though. It looks likt it was machined for the rideplate and shoe,but looks like the shoe has been left off and then looks like someone machined out more to add the ride plate without the shoe.The shoe cradel should have the ride plate relife machined into it and the intake should be machined flat allthe way to the end or rear.
    The reason the ride plate looks to be to short is that the intake is in the stock location.

    Here are a few pics of what a properly machined intake should look like,with all the various parts.

















    Here are a couple of pics of what it should look like in the boat.



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    Quote Originally Posted by holorinhal View Post
    Ity looks like You'r intake has allready had some macchinework done to it. Some thing still does not look right though. It looks likt it was machined for the rideplate and shoe,but looks like the shoe has been left off and then looks like someone machined out more to add the ride plate without the shoe.The shoe cradel should have the ride plate relife machined into it and the intake should be machined flat allthe way to the end or rear.
    The reason the ride plate looks to be to short is that the intake is in the stock location.

    Here are a few pics of what a properly machined intake should look like,with all the various parts.



    Thanks for the info. I'm not sure if its been machined or not. I'm pretty sure it came from Sanger like this but who knows. This boat is older then me. You don't think the ride plate needs to be any longer? From most pictures I have seen it seems like most ride plates go to the back of bowl. Thanks for the post and pictures.

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    HolorinHal nailed it. You've got some work done on that....and for the shoe, more work to go. Nice setup HH by the way...back cut shoe too!
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    Heres my two current two Sangers for the sake of "thought" might give you some ideas The Yellow is "as built" the Black has a Shoe and extended ride plate .. Tom


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    Quote Originally Posted by cshortwide View Post
    Thanks for the info. I'm not sure if its been machined or not. I'm pretty sure it came from Sanger like this but who knows. This boat is older then me. You don't think the ride plate needs to be any longer? From most pictures I have seen it seems like most ride plates go to the back of bowl. Thanks for the post and pictures.
    I do think that You might benifit from a little longer ride plate,atleast long enough to reach the very end of the bowl.....Hal

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    Thanks guys. It seemed to me like I might have to pull the intake to machine the pad down for the shoe. Just wanted to avoid doing that if it was possible cus drilling and tapping it in place wouldn't be that hard. Thanks for the second opinion. Guess I have another project after the rotten floor.

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    So I've been doing more searching and reading around the site and it looks as though I would need to machine the intake down as low as I can to accommodate a shoe and ride plate. At that point if I need to get more of a "bite" from the shoe I can just add shims???? Who would be the best to talk to about this on the west coast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cshortwide View Post
    Thanks guys. It seemed to me like I might have to pull the intake to machine the pad down for the shoe. Just wanted to avoid doing that if it was possible cus drilling and tapping it in place wouldn't be that hard. Thanks for the second opinion. Guess I have another project after the rotten floor.
    YES, You will have to pull the intake out to have it machined for a shoe, sorry.
    It does look like You should be able to have Your intake milled down to the level of where You'r ride plate presently attaches. Then the shoe cradel will have the relife machined in it at the rear for the rideplate to attach to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cshortwide View Post
    So I've been doing more searching and reading around the site and it looks as though I would need to machine the intake down as low as I can to accommodate a shoe and ride plate. At that point if I need to get more of a "bite" from the shoe I can just add shims???? Who would be the best to talk to about this on the west coast?
    Yes the adjustment is with shims.
    The intake is set in the hull, in the same plane as the keel, without shims in the cradel. Then You adjust down with the shim's, depending on the performance of You'r boat.

    Jack Mclure of MPD would be the best person to talk to and He is in SoCal. If You give Him a call He will be happy to explain every thing .
    Here is a link to MPD web site, and their phone number is 949-631-2040... Hal
    Last edited by holorinhal; 09-21-2008 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holorinhal View Post
    Yes the adjustment is with shims.
    The intake is set in the hull, in the same plane as the keel, without shims in the cradel. Then You adjust down with the shim's, depending on the performance of You'r boat.

    Jack Mclure of MPD would be the best person to talk to and He is in SoCal. If You give Him a call He will be happy to explain every thing .
    Here is a link to MPD web site, and their phone number is 949-631-2040... Hal

    Thank you

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