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    Default Need advice on enclosed trailer for placecraft jet boat!!!

    I have zero experience with any kind of enclosed trailer and would like to get some info on what style, bumper pull, gooseneck etc? I dont plan on going cross country just need to keep the boat out of weather related incidents when going somewhere over night and also the safety factor of being enclosed at night. My vehicle that i will have to use is a 2013 1/2 ton silverado crew cab with the new 6.2 liter gas engine. 405 hp and 415 lbs torque. I would like to buy the longest trailer my truck could stand to pull safely. Also would like some tips on best way to load and tie down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbug3 View Post
    I have zero experience with any kind of enclosed trailer and would like to get some info on what style, bumper pull, gooseneck etc? I dont plan on going cross country just need to keep the boat out of weather related incidents when going somewhere over night and also the safety factor of being enclosed at night. My vehicle that i will have to use is a 2013 1/2 ton silverado crew cab with the new 6.2 liter gas engine. 405 hp and 415 lbs torque. I would like to buy the longest trailer my truck could stand to pull safely. Also would like some tips on best way to load and tie down.
    You're gonna need a bigger truck. Fully loaded going to a race I'm at 18000 lbs. You're truck may pull it but it won't stop it. I'd keep it to a road trailer until you can get a larger truck. My first trailer i used was a 22' carson enclosed trailer. Now I have a 26' Haulmark trailer. I don't know the load rating on a 1/2 ton truck but, most guys around here use a 2500 at minimum. A diesel preferred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by widowmaker View Post
    You're gonna need a bigger truck. Fully loaded going to a race I'm at 18000 lbs. You're truck may pull it but it won't stop it. I'd keep it to a road trailer until you can get a larger truck. My first trailer i used was a 22' carson enclosed trailer. Now I have a 26' Haulmark trailer. I don't know the load rating on a 1/2 ton truck but, most guys around here use a 2500 at minimum. A diesel preferred.
    What he said. Plus it would be one hell of an uncomfortable ride. yould have no suspension on the rear and you could check out the tree tops with your headlights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widowmaker View Post
    You're gonna need a bigger truck. Fully loaded going to a race I'm at 18000 lbs. You're truck may pull it but it won't stop it. I'd keep it to a road trailer until you can get a larger truck. My first trailer i used was a 22' carson enclosed trailer. Now I have a 26' Haulmark trailer. I don't know the load rating on a 1/2 ton truck but, most guys around here use a 2500 at minimum. A diesel preferred.
    I prefer a fifth wheel to a goose neck

    I agree you really need a larger truck, a 350, 450, 550. set up

    Dual rear wheels, bigger brakes ,axles and springs. And legally rated for the weight.

    Trailer Mfgs, will sell you shit kicked in glitter, if they spec a trailer, to make a profit.

    You need to know who's axles , weight rating #, the brake system, the tires weight rating #

    I run a semi trailer repair business. I see the good the bad and the ugly !

    The correct axles and tires selection is the key, in trouble free operation.

    Over the years I have found its better to order what you want, then be stuck with what you got.
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    I've got a Pace Shadow (that is for sale in the WFL group) that is 30' bumper pull. I pull it with a Chevrolet 3500 Single Rear Wheel Duramax. It handles it great. Pulled it from Central Texas to Phoenix to the Finals...set the cruise at 78 and never looked back. Averaged 11 mpg on the trip...

    No way a 1/2 ton will pull any size trailer with boat and all the stuff that goes with it very far....

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    I tried to buy a new duramax diesel and drove it for two days. It was brand new. The first day i played with all the torque it had and fuel mileage was not good. The next day i drove it as easy as i could and mileage was about 18 mpg. The main problem i have is paying $60,000 for a 3/4 ton truck and only using it to pull an enclosed trailer only a handful of times a year out of town that is. The biggest problem my girlfriend and I had was the stupid rough ride that it had compared to my 1/2 ton. Just didnt make a lot of sense to be miserable driving it 90% of the time. Im 62, not 32 so that makes a difference . Bound to be a better answer. Hey BP, what kind of rig do you pull?

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    2005 2500 chevy duramax 4x4 crew cab that I bought new in 2005. it's the most comfortable truck for short or long trips I've ever been in. and close to the most comfortable vehicle. 130,000 so far. close to bone stock, except for the air cleaner (k&n) and the wheels/tires. only problems I've ever had was, the dash went nuts and it was replaced under warranty, and one thermostat quit (they have 2). in 2006, I stopped in chico on the way to the cdba race and had Transfer Flow install a 45 gallon replacement fuel tank. going to Oregon or marble falls, i'll stop twice. maybe 3 times if I feel like it. .
    after spending a ton of time looking, 2 years ago I got a very bare bones hurricane 24' v-nose. $3700.00 I drove to fitzgerald Georgia to pick it up at the factory because shipping costs for one of these things jacks the cost 1000-2500, depending on how far you are from the factory. the same trailer was for sale on a lot about 2 miles from my house for 7000. shipping and markup. after picking up the trailer, I drove up to Kentucky and picked up the dolly I bought from jeff miller . it needed a little surgery and some new tires, but it's working out very well.
    I've wired it the way I want it, installed lights, installed some insulation, a little ac unit, ball receiver and ball mount, winch, way better tires than it came with. I've camped in it several times in the pits, very easy to get the boat in or out.
    I get around 16-16 1/2 just driving the truck. loaded and towing to a race, 12.5-13. it is not a real heavy trailer. like gary said, going to marble falls I just set cruise at 75 and let it go. tows great.

    my total loaded trailer weight is about 6000lbs. I carry another 400 or so in the truck bed (old habits). I know that newer half tons advertise some pretty impressive numbers for towing. a friend with a new dodge hemi half ton swears he could tow this with no problem. you could try it. just not sure about how well the truck will like it.

    like was said, you need to decide what you want. I towed a lot of miles with a road trailer, so all I wanted was a box and just keep doing what I'm used to. it's not even in the conversation of big and fancy, but it meets my needs just fine. with hurricane, I could have ordered it with every bell and whistle and it's done in 2 weeks. they had some real nice stackers ready for delivery while I was there, as well as some nicely decked out 24-28' deals. I'm still happy with what I have, and am still tinkering with it.

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    BP I was just talkin to a buddy of mine the other day that had the same guys in GA build him a trailer for his motorcycles. He made a haul down to Florida with it loaded(around 5000lbs) with a 1/2 ton and said it was the best enclosed trailer he had ever pulled. He told me that I would have no problem pulling a 24' with my truck. It's a 06 GMC heavy 1/2 ton with the 6.0 in it. I think by the time he got done building the trailer with all the bells and whistles he was out the door for $5000.
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    Gary, you could avoid having to buy a truck if you gave that blue Placecraft back to the guy you bought it from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahsumtoy View Post
    Gary, you could avoid having to buy a truck if you gave that blue Placecraft back to the guy you bought it from.
    What about the new boat i have? Got to pull it. I just spent $2200 on two seats for the blue placecraft so they would fit a man and for more leg room. Blue boat isnt going anywhere other than the water. That is a fine boat. Its ashame that 2 stupid boat seats cost a little over half of what BP spent on a new 24 ft enclosed trailer. Something wrong with that deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbug3 View Post
    What about the new boat i have? Got to pull it. I just spent $2200 on two seats for the blue placecraft so they would fit a man and for more leg room. Blue boat isnt going anywhere other than the water. That is a fine boat. Its ashame that 2 stupid boat seats cost a little over half of what BP spent on a new 24 ft enclosed trailer. Something wrong with that deal.
    I hear you Gary, but all that trick stuff doesn't come cheep. Look at it this way, you got a really good deal on the boat. Sorry for jacking your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbug3 View Post
    I tried to buy a new duramax diesel and drove it for two days. It was brand new. The first day i played with all the torque it had and fuel mileage was not good. The next day i drove it as easy as i could and mileage was about 18 mpg. The main problem i have is paying $60,000 for a 3/4 ton truck and only using it to pull an enclosed trailer only a handful of times a year out of town that is. The biggest problem my girlfriend and I had was the stupid rough ride that it had compared to my 1/2 ton. Just didnt make a lot of sense to be miserable driving it 90% of the time. Im 62, not 32 so that makes a difference . Bound to be a better answer. Hey BP, what kind of rig do you pull?


    I'm on my 3rd Duramax 4x4 Crew Cab Single Rear Wheel in a row... before that I drove two Fords similarly equipped.... The Chevy's are, as bp stated, the best riding vehicles as far as trucks go that I've ever driven....

    My last one was a 2009 and I drove it to 185,000 miles and traded it for my 2014 the week before Marble Falls and I turned over 33K miles this morning... I drive a lot...!

    Did you drive a Short Bed (6') by any chance...? I rode in one on a two hour trip and it was rough riding... Mine have all been 8' bed truks and they ride great....

    So bottom line is that if it's good enough for an old fart like bp... it should be a great truck for a young 62-year old...


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    Quote Originally Posted by badbug3 View Post
    What about the new boat i have? Got to pull it. I just spent $2200 on two seats for the blue placecraft so they would fit a man and for more leg room. Blue boat isnt going anywhere other than the water. That is a fine boat. Its ashame that 2 stupid boat seats cost a little over half of what BP spent on a new 24 ft enclosed trailer. Something wrong with that deal.
    nothing custom about my trailer gary. total production line bare bone's trailer. you could've just had a couple plain jane small buckets with some foam tossed in for a lot less . you could also go spend $20,000+ for a 24' enclosed trailer, if that would help balance it out . and you would need to do that for a trailer that's comparable to those seats. I just did it the way I wanted to do it, after doing a helluva lot of research.

    Quote Originally Posted by TNYoungblood View Post
    BP I was just talkin to a buddy of mine the other day that had the same guys in GA build him a trailer for his motorcycles. He made a haul down to Florida with it loaded(around 5000lbs) with a 1/2 ton and said it was the best enclosed trailer he had ever pulled. He told me that I would have no problem pulling a 24' with my truck. It's a 06 GMC heavy 1/2 ton with the 6.0 in it. I think by the time he got done building the trailer with all the bells and whistles he was out the door for $5000.
    depends what someone is after mike. I wanted a bare bones no frills thing, and it was the best deal I could find anywhere. even with the drive to get it. there are trailer manufacturers here and there all over the country. all put out some really neat stuff. within a 100 mile radius of fitzgerald ga., there are 5 major trailer manufacturers. and they all poop out a shitload of trailers. I got there on a weekday at 2pm, and mine was the 35th trailer delivered - that day. huge manufacturing facility out in the middle of nowhere. fitzgerald has at least one stop light. several of the towns I drove through in rural ga didn't have any. hurricane appears to have changed names to husky. same facility.

    my neighbor across the street has a 28' pace that he bought new 6 years ago to carry his d/gasser to racetracks, fully finished with most every bell and whistle. you would not tow that trailer with your truck. maybe around the block. my next door neighbor recently found a used 24' carson to haul his e/gas mustang to races. bare bones, but you'd struggle to tow that one too. it is a heavy trailer. I loaned him mine 4 times and it worked fine for him. he just wanted his own. 5k. he's replaced all the tires, installed 120v wiring, lots of touch up paint. he'll be towing it with his diesel pusher. towing it with a half ton would be iffy.

    weights are gonna add up, and if you're gonna try with a half ton, you gotta watch it. you could probably put your boat in a trailer like mine and tow it just fine. but you start loading other stuff in there that you're going to want at the track, it starts adding up. the more weight added, the harder it's going to be to get by with a half ton...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheyenne 372 View Post
    Did you drive a Short Bed (6') by any chance...? I rode in one on a two hour trip and it was rough riding... Mine have all been 8' bed truks and they ride great....

    So bottom line is that if it's good enough for an old fart like bp... it should be a great truck for a young 62-year old...

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    mine is a crew cab short bed. hate to be captain obvious, but your ass must be way too sensitive... as a certified old fart that drives 1100 miles straight through, I do endorse the comfort level of the Silverado d'max. but if that's not good enough, you could always play "keeping up with the vails's's", and go getcha a freightliner sport. I hear there's nothing else like it, but I couldn't afford a lugnut off one of those things...

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