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    Hey guys. I just became the new owner of a 19' 1968 Wiman. Its in great shape with a 454bb with a Berkley jet. Hull looks good. Trailer looks good with new tires and appears to be the original trailer. I actually traded for this boat. Traded a car I wasn't using. Always wanted a jet boat. Im a car guy and a gear head. I've owned several muscle cars over the years. I have never owned a boat although I have been around them and have drivin them. By no means am ai a boat expert!
    I see this as a cool muscle boat. I do not plan on racing it. Just going to be used for cruising the lakes and river with the family.

    I would love to have any basic pointers as far as maintance for these setups. Anything as far as the Berkley. I know enough not to run it dry. But thats about it to be honest. Lots of learning to do. Here's a few pictures. Any history or opinions on this setup and boat would be great. Previous owner claims the motor only has about 50 hours on it. It fires right up and sounds strong with no weird noises. Very good oil pressure. Says he gps it at 78 mph last month.
    Things I would like to know. Recommended oil and oil change intervals if they would differ from a street car? General maintenance I should do that a new boat owner might not know beyond common sense. Look forward to learning from you all! Also, LMK what you guys think this boat is worth? Just curious if my trade was a good one. I valued the car at about 3000-3500.
    Aloha! Scott
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    That looks like a clean boat. If the motor isn't hurt you did alright with your trade. 3000.00 isn't a bad deal for a clean boat. I'd be skeptical of that speed. That hull has a pretty deep V which makes it ride nice, but will hurt top end speed. Not saying it won't run into the 70's, but I'd be a skeptic until I saw the GPS. If you've been around hot rods, this will be cake.
    Jet boats are "Bare Bones" basic. Motor with only an alternator, and the pump. Minimal moving parts., no drive train to speak of. On an unknown boat I'd make sure I had a good fuel filter. Boats have a tendency to sit for long periods of time with gas in the tanks that can turn into all kinds of crap and head aches once on the water.
    Oil change, I'd do once a season just as maintenance. Quality filter, quality oil, you choose your brand. That subject has been beat to death, (do a search on oil or oil filters).
    There's a grease fitting on the pump housing where the drive line attaches. It greases the only bearing in the pump, just a couple of squirts, you don't need to over-do it. The bowl should have a couple 1/8" pipe plugs on the top. Take them out and add gear oil in one hole till it comes out the other. You may find someone has packed this with wheel bearing grease. If that's the case, I'd just leave it for now.
    Your motor will run cold by car standards, probably 140-160. This is normal. Oil temp is more important than water temp in a jet boat. Use the search function on "water temp" or "Hose routing" , "engine temp", stuff like that so you can familiarize yourself with how these things work in a boat V.S. car. Search function is your friend, lots of info there to keep you busy for hours.
    And last, don't forget the trailer bearings. Boat trailers are bad at eating bearings because they're submerged in water a lot and many people don't do proper maintenance on them. You don't want to chunk a bearing in the middle of the desert with the whole family sitting in 110 degrees. Good luck, have fun, and welcome to the sight!

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    Welcome!

    Nice looking boat, glad to see another new guy.


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    I'm with you on the MPH to ICECREAMAN, thats the frst thing I thought when I saw that as well. I'd bet somewhere in the 50-60 mph on gps to be closer to a realistic number. Good score of a boat though. It's clean

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    Thank you guys for the welcome. ICECREAMMAN, Thank you for that info. That is exactly the kind of stuff advice I was looking for. Boat doesn't have an oil temp gauge (All the gauges are new). Oil pressure,if accurate was about 70psi at idle which I thought seemed high in a good way. Never owned a BB. Just been around SB Chevys and Fords. Love me some VWs as well . The previous owner said that you should use oil with a zinc additive in marine motors at every change. Is that what is needed? I always thought that was only needed for break-ins. At least on the automotive side. I cannot see or hear any problems with the motor. It fires right up. Idles well. Throttle response is crisp. Oil looks good. So hopefully his hours on the engine are accurate. Motor is very clean with no excess oil or grime build up. Very clean, so I can believe the motor to be fairly fresh. I'm not too worried about the 78mph gps claim to be honest. I do not plan on running it like that myself. I just want a mean sounding reliable boat that looks good with enough get up and go to have some fun. Enough to pull a tube or skier is good enough for me.

    The previous owner told me that this was kind of a rare boat. Can any of you tell me about the hull and if it was known to be a good running boat or considered desirable in the jet community? Sounds like this was made more for ride comfort than speed with the V hull, which is exactly what I would prefer. Any knowledge about this boat would be appreciated. I did read a little about the builder who looks like he sadly passed away a few years ago. Looks like his son also builds? I'm more curious if there is a collectors market out there like for old cars. It would be fun to know I had something others admired. You know us car guys. I really look at this boat as a thing of beauty and have always admired the jets when we went to the river. I really always told my wife that they were like muscle cars on the water with all the chrome and noise. Now I have one! Finally!

    Scott
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    I've got some headers for that motor if you're intersted

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    Nice boat, there is a build of this same boat in this section, I think you did fine.
    I personally wouldn't change anything on it. that's a nice family fun boat. Keep up on maintaining it,.... drive the piss out of it and have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS&B1 View Post
    Nice boat, there is a build of this same boat in this section, I think you did fine.
    I personally wouldn't change anything on it. that's a nice family fun boat. Keep up on maintaining it,.... drive the piss out of it and have fun!
    Words of wisdom!!! When you start Racing then worry about going faster!!

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    I'll keep you in mind Witchcraft. I need to get it on the water to test it out before I start thinking about changing/improving anything. I went through it today and cleaned it out. Over all it looks really good. Just needs some tlc here and there. Looks like I need to replace the trim cable? There is a ratchet type shifter made by Trimaster to the right of the driver on the floor. The cable is frayed and the housing is not attached to the shifter body. It also seems excessively long as it coiled once complete circle under the engine before reaching the Berkley. Hopefully that's not too expensive?

    I have a question regarding the Berkely drive. At the bottom facing the rear are two holes about 3/4 inch holes. Water will pour in to the boat if I put this in the water I'm assuming? I found these rubber and brass plugs with a T handle that fit perfectly in there, and tighten up when tightening the T handle. Correct me if I am wrong. I am assuming that those should be plugged with these things and then you could take them out to drain water from the boat at the end of the day once out of the water? Makes sense to me what what do I know?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PS&B1 View Post
    Nice boat, there is a build of this same boat in this section, I think you did fine.
    I personally wouldn't change anything on it. that's a nice family fun boat. Keep up on maintaining it,.... drive the piss out of it and have fun!
    Tried searching for that build and didn't see it. If you run across it could you put a link to it here please? I'd love to see it. Thanks!

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyB View Post
    Tried searching for that build and didn't see it. If you run across it could you put a link to it here please? I'd love to see it. Thanks!

    Scott
    1968 rogers build,

    yes the rubber things are plugs!! Stuff them in the holes and turn the T. To tighten.
    welcome to the jetboat world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyB View Post
    There is a ratchet type shifter made by Trimaster to the right of the driver on the floor. The cable is frayed and the housing is not attached to the shifter body. It also seems excessively long as it coiled once complete circle under the engine before reaching the Berkley. Hopefully that's not too expensive?
    Suspect you will find this controller is a "Trimetric" with multiple locking positions and not ratcheting , actually these were largely V-drive Cav plate controllers sometimes pressed into service as controllers for Jet Trims like Jet O Vators and Place Diverters , cables run $89.95 Tom



    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyB View Post
    I have a question regarding the Berkely drive. At the bottom facing the rear are two holes about 3/4 inch holes.

    Scott
    If your referring to the two large holes in the base of the Berkeley transom adaptor or transom , yes prior to running the boat they need plugs or you newly acquired Jet Boat will sink like a Hot Rock and could likely become a Utube "boat launch ramp video"

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    Cable isn't expensive and easy to replace. I am finishing mine right now. Just a few thoughts. First make sure you measure the cable to get the correct and I'd change the transom seal for added insurance.

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    [QUOTE=ICECREAMAN;3067426 I'd be skeptical of that speed. That hull has a pretty deep V which makes it ride nice, but will hurt top end speed.[/QUOTE]

    How does the entry of the hull HURT top end when it is in the air. How different is a shallow entry versus a deep entry at the transom and intake?

    Here is my 67 Weiman. Older pic before some upgrades. Can someone please explain how the front of my hull that is in the air makes it slower then a shallow v type hull. Running 75 on GPS in this pic.


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