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    Hey guys,
    I have heard questionable reviews about the Milidon 10 qt oil pan that I have just purchased. Can't return it. So, I don't want this pan to ruin a fresh engine. I have heard that adding extra oil can just add to the airation of oil. Are there any solid modifications that I can make to improve the function of this pan? I have no qualms welding on it, adding or selectively removing material inside the pan to correct whatever issues these pans have. Any recommendations or insight on making these pans work well?

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    Wanted to add that I bought the Milodon 10 qt. pan for a BBF. Will reside in my 20' '77 Cheetah w/ BBF and Berkeley pump.

    Thanks in advance for your guys' help!

    Nik

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    What is wrong with your Milodon pan ? They have been used for years in boats.Call Milodon if you are worried about something being wrong.

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    Some people complain about the windage tray in a high performance engine. Your boat should not have that problem. The one thing about the BBF is your pick up is isolated at the rear of the pan. Oil wants to run up the back of the pan. We would fab a "U" shaped deflector piece at the back of the pan and about 7" on each side, weld to pan with only enough room to install the pickup. Of course this would be under the windage tray. The side extensions help when making tight turns.

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    Weve had really good luck with Cantons and will continue to use them in Ford builds

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    Weve had really good luck with Cantons and will continue to use them in Ford builds
    I ordered a Canton V-Drive pan for a gen 5 BB Chevy motor from Jegs 4 weeks ago they told me it will send from manufacture in 2 to 3 weeks. Followed up a month later they told be pan was Discontinued!!!!! DAMIT. I got the pickup and one piece gasket within 4 days of order! So I called Kevco pans will get it in a week for my gen 5 build.

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    Thanks for the input, guys. To clarify, there is nothing wrong with my pan. I have read some threads about problems with the Milodon pans. Guys trying to add oil to reduce cavitation, etc. just wanted to see if there were inherent problems that can be fixed before the engine is buttoned up. Sounds like the problems are found with higher performance applications.

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    One issue for that pan is the relocation of the pickup to the rear (oil pump is in the front) , thus requiring oil to be drawn the length of the engine block to the pump , had a few issues with that brand enough to convince me to look elsewhere

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    Paul put up a thread regarding this very subject in the dyno section. Its a how to on modifying this pan.

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    There is alot of info out there about the drawbacks/problems associated with the Milodon BBF jetboat pans. During my build I almost grabbed several used Milodon pans, but decided to spend more on the side of caution and went with an Armando's pan. Why take a chance on failed lubrication?
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    On my BBC in the Miller I originally built it with the Milodon 10qt. Also used the Milodon PU and tray. That engine had other issues that led to a hydrauliced cylinder and failure. When it did run it would idle at 60 lbs +- and hold that under hard driving for a short time (Maybe less than a few minutes of "racing around") after that you could watch the psi drop to 30 or less. Back off and cruise around or stop and it would come back.
    After the Hyd failure, I replaced the PU with the HD Milodon offering. The new engine behaved the same way as far as the oil psi.
    When Tom installed my rail kit, I had him change the pan out to a Canton. I am not pushing the Canton, but with no other changes the psi fluctuation did dissapear.

    So as far as the BBC goes, the issues with the Milodon were manifest in my deal.

    As as far as the Ford, call Lakes only. For me it was easier to just swap pans, tray and PU versus an engineering remedy.
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    I really appreciate the discussion from everyone!

    So, how are the Armando and Canton pans set up, as far as the pickups go? Do they pick the oil up from the front of the pan? That question leads me to ask, what are the differences between a jet and v drive pan? Just the baffle doors facing the opposite directions?

    I understand that the Cantons and Armando's are better pans; I was just trying to isolate why. Do the one way flaps in the baffles seal better, keeping more oil in the front of the pan? I could see that if you could keep more oil in the front of the pan, as opposed to all pushed back to the rear, your oil would be shallower, which would seemingly minimize the aeration of oil and/or cavitation of your oil pump. I feel like I may keep the Milodon on my stock-ish 460 thats going in the boat right now, but when I build my stroker, and have a higher performance ($) engine to worry about, I will upgrade to the likes of a Canton or Armando's. In the mean time, I was trying to see if there was a resolution to the problems associated with the Milodon pan.

    Now I will go read the thread about milodon pans in the Dyno section!

    Thanks guys,

    Nik

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