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    Default The Miller build!!

    Well,
    Things are happening now!!
    Got the go ahead from Deb to spend at will!
    I got the new motor about ready, had it in once but yarded it back out to go deeper. Got the transom adapter off with no damage to paint job. was not easy due to no gasket being used on previous install. There was no O-ring on pump, just silicone.
    Am sending the pump to MPD Monday. It is a 12 JC, but Jack at MPD says he can put a 2 piece bowl on it for the addition of droop and place.
    I will have some questions as I go. Am planning on following MPD's advice on pump, but would like some other input as far as droop? place diverter is a must, I think. Any advice there?
    Will put pics up in a few hours.

    79 Miller jet. 454 Estimate 525 HP. Not Dyno'd.
    Has full Eagle forged rotating Ass., 10:1 Comp. Brodix 119 chamber, 280cc rect. Alum heads. Comp 280 marine hyd. roller.

    Boat ran exactly 70 MPH with similar engine, but with 280 (.575 lift across) flat hyd. cam.
    5000 RPM exactly. Jack says a modified A impellor would suit my needs.

    Not much point here, just a little exited!!
    Tommy
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    Tommy please remove all Jimsplace quotes from your sig and don't put more back. He doesn't like it and it is against the rules. Thank you.
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    The age long strife I see
    Where I fought in many guises,
    Many names, but always me."

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    Hi Tommy.
    Jack built my JC with a JG bowl, droop and diverter. He said that on boats like ours a droop would be helpful, I think with regard to getting the tail to lift. He also set the pump back 2+inches and added a shoe and rideplate. If you've got the boat apart I'd strongly recommend going that extra mile and yank the intake to have it machined for a shoe/rideplate. I'm certain the other more knowledgable fellas would agree. Diverter is a definite YES.
    Anyway, with 685hp spinning a detailed ss B+ impeller I've reached 87mph on gps. With some more testing/tuning/tweeking I hope to get it to 90 without using the 150 shot. Good luck with your Miller!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75 Miller View Post
    Hi Tommy.
    Jack built my JC with a JG bowl, droop and diverter. He said that on boats like ours a droop would be helpful, I think with regard to getting the tail to lift. He also set the pump back 2+inches and added a shoe and rideplate. If you've got the boat apart I'd strongly recommend going that extra mile and yank the intake to have it machined for a shoe/rideplate. I'm certain the other more knowledgable fellas would agree. Diverter is a definite YES.
    Anyway, with 685hp spinning a detailed ss B+ impeller I've reached 87mph on gps. With some more testing/tuning/tweeking I hope to get it to 90 without using the 150 shot. Good luck with your Miller!
    Whats up Matt ! You still haven't put the squeeze to her ? Did you ever put a 3* shoe in it, or a loader w/ blocker in it ? Happy New Year.

    BTW, I agree w/ what Matt said. The boat will really respond to a diverter, and a shoe/ride. Its pretty costly to get these hulls to perform but its possible. Get the bottom looked at also, otherwise you could be chasing your tail for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Got the go ahead from Deb to spend at will!
    How did you get that to happen? Can she call my wife?

    You have a clean Miller. Good luck in making it run faster.

    Keep the pics coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 76Miller View Post
    Whats up Matt ! You still haven't put the squeeze to her ? Did you ever put a 3* shoe in it, or a loader w/ blocker in it ? Happy New Year.

    BTW, I agree w/ what Matt said. The boat will really respond to a diverter, and a shoe/ride. Its pretty costly to get these hulls to perform but its possible. Get the bottom looked at also, otherwise you could be chasing your tail for a while.
    Hey Wayne, Happy New Year! How's everything? How's the new ride progressing?
    Nah, no 3*, no loader changes, no nitrous. Well, I did put a little more shoe in it, to about 1/16 below keel. Tweeked on rideplate angles too. Putting the last bit of shoe in it got me from 86.9 to 87.1 Baby steps.
    Got a little video of it underway too. Water still seems to be consistently breaking off the last 6 or so inches ahead of the transom, so I think a 2.5 or 3* shoe and/or a loader with more blocker in it will likely help. But the last half of 2008 were shitt for me with respect to work, so money's been TIGHT. 2009 is looking better already so hopefully I'll be able to put some more cash into the old Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75 Miller View Post
    Hey Wayne, Happy New Year! How's everything? How's the new ride progressing?
    Nah, no 3*, no loader changes, no nitrous. Well, I did put a little more shoe in it, to about 1/16 below keel. Tweeked on rideplate angles too. Putting the last bit of shoe in it got me from 86.9 to 87.1 Baby steps.
    Got a little video of it underway too. Water still seems to be consistently breaking off the last 6 or so inches ahead of the transom, so I think a 2.5 or 3* shoe and/or a loader with more blocker in it will likely help. But the last half of 2008 were shitt for me with respect to work, so money's been TIGHT. 2009 is looking better already so hopefully I'll be able to put some more cash into the old Miller.
    Right on Matt ! Lifes good, just been working alot and taking it slow. I won't be hitting the water for a little bit but it should be pretty stout when it does. Post up some video if ya get a chance.

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    Congrats Tommy,

    Good luck with the project.

    I forget is the Miller the 2nd boat or 3rd ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper CP View Post
    Congrats Tommy,

    Good luck with the project.

    I forget is the Miller the 2nd boat or 3rd ?

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    Thats funny!!

    The Miller is in fact the FIRST boat in the fleet. We are down to 2 now, sold the flatty to a friend so Debbie could have a garage spot back.
    Unfortunately, that empty spot is now full of seats, engines and various boat parts from the Miller.
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    Many names, but always me."

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    Well, this was easy!!

    The transom plate did not have a gasket on it, just silicone. It was a little tricky getting it off without scratching the paint.



    The intake looks a little "twisted" from the back. Not sure about this.




    Here is the main reason I want the intake reset. I do not like the looks of this silicone, as well a couple obvious patches around the intake area. The transom looks OK, but will see what "Sangster" thinks about it when he gets it this week.



    Am planning on shipping the pump out to MPD on monday. Dragging the boat down to Sangster Mon or Tue. Hopefully he can straighten it out!!
    Tommy
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    Tommy please remove all Jimsplace quotes from your sig and don't put more back. He doesn't like it and it is against the rules. Thank you.
    "So as through a glass, and darkly
    The age long strife I see
    Where I fought in many guises,
    Many names, but always me."

    Gen. George S Patton

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Well,
    Things are happening now!!
    Got the go ahead from Deb to spend at will!
    I got the new motor about ready, had it in once but yarded it back out to go deeper. Got the transom adapter off with no damage to paint job. was not easy due to no gasket being used on previous install. There was no O-ring on pump, just silicone.
    Am sending the pump to MPD Monday. It is a 12 JC, but Jack at MPD says he can put a 2 piece bowl on it for the addition of droop and place.
    I will have some questions as I go. Am planning on following MPD's advice on pump, but would like some other input as far as droop? place diverter is a must, I think. Any advice there?
    Will put pics up in a few hours.

    79 Miller jet. 454 Estimate 525 HP. Not Dyno'd.
    Has full Eagle forged rotating Ass., 10:1 Comp. Brodix 119 chamber, 280cc rect. Alum heads. Comp 280 marine hyd. roller.

    Boat ran exactly 70 MPH with similar engine, but with 280 (.575 lift across) flat hyd. cam.
    5000 RPM exactly. Jack says a modified A impellor would suit my needs.

    Not much point here, just a little exited!!

    If you need another set of hands for anything shoot me a PM and i'll be glad to help you out if I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byronk View Post
    If you need another set of hands for anything shoot me a PM and i'll be glad to help you out if I can.

    Thanks, not much going to be happening for another month now.
    Leaving for work this Friday. Pump will be at MPD, hull will be farmed out, but when I get back I'll be needing a hand getting it all together.
    Don't you live off of 273?
    Tommy
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    Tommy please remove all Jimsplace quotes from your sig and don't put more back. He doesn't like it and it is against the rules. Thank you.
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    Many names, but always me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrollerDave View Post
    How did you get that to happen? Can she call my wife?

    You have a clean Miller. Good luck in making it run faster.

    Keep the pics coming.
    What you do is tell her the cost is half of what you know it will be, then when it is time to pay, bitch loudly about how you are getting robbed. By playing the "victim", She will feel sorry for you and give you pity and sympathy!! (At least that is my recent trick)
    J/K, Debbie likes driving them also, and gets upset if someone passes her.

    I planned on doing a rail kit while the motor was out, then showed her the pump in the boat, and pictures of boats with diverters and droops. We agreed that we might as well do it from the "ground" up while it was apart.
    Tommy
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    Tommy please remove all Jimsplace quotes from your sig and don't put more back. He doesn't like it and it is against the rules. Thank you.
    "So as through a glass, and darkly
    The age long strife I see
    Where I fought in many guises,
    Many names, but always me."

    Gen. George S Patton

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Thanks, not much going to be happening for another month now.
    Leaving for work this Friday. Pump will be at MPD, hull will be farmed out, but when I get back I'll be needing a hand getting it all together.
    Don't you live off of 273?
    Yeah in Westwood Village. Let me know when your ready.

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    Well, our baby is gone! Left it with Sangster yesterday. Quoted me a good price to reset intake, and is going to dress up the engine area a little and address the transom inside. Pump is leaving today. Off to work for a month tomorrow, hopefully I can stay employed long enough to pay for all this!! If I am out of work for the summer, I want to make sure the boat is done first.
    Tommy
    Quote Originally Posted by Rexone View Post
    Tommy please remove all Jimsplace quotes from your sig and don't put more back. He doesn't like it and it is against the rules. Thank you.
    "So as through a glass, and darkly
    The age long strife I see
    Where I fought in many guises,
    Many names, but always me."

    Gen. George S Patton

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