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    Any body know a trick to bleeding a Hydrolic deverter? I'ev tried afew times bleeding it from diferent points and its not working out too well. Also any preferenc on type of fluid?
    Maybe I just need to keep trying, just thought someone might know a trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkyard View Post
    Any body know a trick to bleeding a Hydrolic deverter? I'ev tried afew times bleeding it from diferent points and its not working out too well. Also any preferenc on type of fluid?
    Maybe I just need to keep trying, just thought someone might know a trick.
    Theres should be no need to Bleed ! whats it doing (or not)? please describe clics noises? goes up but not down vice versa ? Tom

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    If I asist it up It will go down. Some times it will go up. I didnt notice any noise.I was tolde tranny fluid would work. Did I screw it up with tranny fluid, its still hydrolic fluid.It started having issuse after the pump came off from driveing down a 15 mile dirt road and lost all of the fluid.
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    I had some problems with my hydraulic diverter and Tom sorted it out for me over the phone, "... turn this, turn that, it works now? Good, glad I could help, let me know if you need anything else...", so if I were you I'd call Tom at Jet Boat Performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkyard View Post
    If I asist it up It will go down. Some times it will go up. I didnt notice any noise.I was tolde tranny fluid would work. Did I screw it up with tranny fluid, its still hydrolic fluid.It started having issuse after the pump came off from driveing down a 15 mile dirt road and lost all of the fluid.
    I doubt it loosing fluid caused the problem. I had an issue with mine at one time where it would come off the mount once a trip and dump all the fluid into my right sponson. After cleaning it twice I fixed the problem!

    Any Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) will be fine.

    The only way I can think of it going the opposite way off command, would be if the lines were backward.

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    By cleaning you meen clean out the tank and flush the lines? What works best to clean it with.Brack cleaner?

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    Low voltage frequently causes the Place Diverter pump to malfunction. The valve solenoids are very sensitive to low voltage, if they don't open/close the diverter won't move. Make sure your battery is fully charged, make sure all the electrical connections are clean and tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkyard View Post
    By cleaning you meen clean out the tank and flush the lines? What works best to clean it with.Brack cleaner?
    Yes, Brake cleaners works well.

    No, just trying to get in the right sponson and clean all the red fluid from underneath a fuel tank. that crap makes a mess. Its very cramped in there, had to remove the header. I scratched the hell out of my arm both times....

    ..Although that was much funner than cleaning about two qaurts of cooked oil that shot out my rear main, luckily half of it when into the river.

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    Yes, Brake cleaners works well.

    No, just trying to get in the right sponson and clean all the red fluid from underneath a fuel tank. that crap makes a mess. Its very cramped in there, had to remove the header. I scratched the hell out of my arm both times....

    ..Although that was much funner than cleaning about two qaurts of cooked oil that shot out my rear main, luckily half of it when into the river.
    what worked for me is loosen the solenoides almost 1 turn each. screw them back on relativly hand tight. then loosen pressure and return lines at the actuator. while your moving switch in the right direction up or down have someone gently move the diverter up and down at the same time to pressurize (bleed) the actuator about 5 or 10 times each. dont let resovoir run dry. tighten lines when actuator is full up or full down. again have a fully charged battery! good luck it worked for me.
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    You shouldn't have to bleed it, just actuating up and down should complete the bleed after a few cycles. Do you have the regular dash up down switch or the steering wheel switch? The wheel switch requires a diode wired up, and when I first installed mine the diode was bad. I spent an hour trying to bleed, checking connections, and after calling Place and trying a few things they suggested they said to wire in the simple dash switch to see if the diode was bad. Sure enough, that cured it. So, if you have the diode I'd suspect that, if not check all your wiring, I doubt its a solenoid problem on a new diverter.

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    I flushed the system out and it didnt do anything.So, I called Tom at Jet Boat Perormence and even though he was in the middle of installing a motor for a customer he had me going within 5min. Thanks tom! Thanks to all that responded to this thred as well.Any time I need help or have a question you guys pull throug. Thats what makes PB what it is. (Great boaters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkyard View Post
    Any body know a trick to bleeding a Hydrolic deverter? I'ev tried afew times bleeding it from diferent points and its not working out too well. Also any preferenc on type of fluid?
    Maybe I just need to keep trying, just thought someone might know a trick.

    Did you buy the place diverter / bennet pump or a regular bennet pump? The place pumps have an extra set of valve solenoids, for the fluid return. The regular bennet pumps will do what your describing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkyard View Post
    I flushed the system out and it didnt do anything.So, I called Tom at Jet Boat Perormence and even though he was in the middle of installing a motor for a customer he had me going within 5min. Thanks tom! Thanks to all that responded to this thred as well.Any time I need help or have a question you guys pull throug. Thats what makes PB what it is. (Great boaters)
    So what was the problem?

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    A Few years back , Bennet had a "run" of Hyd Pumps that were "acting up" on install , Frank or Tim (Place) called us (dlrs) and said to "take thumb and fore finger" and loosen and then retighten all solenoids to a very light seat (kind of like tweekin a ..... .This seems to apply to other Hyd pump situations as well If the solenoids (valves) are too tight (or tighten up or are overtightened) they will do wierd things with fluid routing ! .My pleasure to try to help Junkyard , always happy to take Tech calls.... Tom

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