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    You'll have to forgive my ignorance. I'm used to diesels and haven't mesed with gas engines much. I have a points set up in my Taylor w/bbf right now. If I wanted to switch to electronic, what would be the advantages? Also, would the conversion just consist of a new distributor, or the distributor with the amp box (sorry, don't know the proper term)? It seems like a step forward, but I don't know, that why I'd like some input. Thanks in advance for ya'lls help.

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    call pertronix or summit i got the flame thrower kit for my points dis in my stocker i like it a bunch it was like $90ish with the electronic ign. and coil
    Its a FORD thing chevy's arent quick enough to understand

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    Eric , you'll get quicker more reliable starts and much more accurate spark distributuion you'll also do away with virtually any maintenance , most modern Electronic Distributors are "programable" for custom timing curves . You have both "drop in ready to run" and coplete CD sytems available to you , We use a lot of MSD but recently have tried the new Mallory and Crane set ups call if I can help Tom

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    I wouldnt use mallory if you gave it to me call summit get there point elimination kit and be happy for the 60$ dollars you spend for simplicity msd has it's problems too you want easy cheap and reliable for your boat not some high dollar stuff that wont make a diffrence and that prob will give you some problem
    Its a FORD thing chevy's arent quick enough to understand

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    I like my Mallory stuff. That points eliminator kit from Summit, if it's the one I'm think about made by Accel, is really a Mallory E-spark module in disguise. I've had a Mallory unilite on my boat for the better part of 16 years, replaced the module once about 5 years ago, although I don't think that was the problem, all my engine electrical connections were pretty corroded which can cause a host of problems. I won't use a points ignition on anything I own.

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    talking the pertronix kit
    Its a FORD thing chevy's arent quick enough to understand

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    I used the Pertronix deal in the past and I noticed a slight power decrease after installing it, but I left it there because screwing with points suks.

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    really with a hotter spark you lost power maby lean or you didn't install correctly
    Its a FORD thing chevy's arent quick enough to understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBoatCop View Post
    You'll have to forgive my ignorance. I'm used to diesels and haven't mesed with gas engines much. I have a points set up in my Taylor w/bbf right now. If I wanted to switch to electronic, what would be the advantages? Also, would the conversion just consist of a new distributor, or the distributor with the amp box (sorry, don't know the proper term)? It seems like a step forward, but I don't know, that why I'd like some input. Thanks in advance for ya'lls help.

    Eric
    When I didtched my Prestolite points dist, I had to dump the whole Distrib. as I was getting advance of about 6* @ an 800RPM idle.
    To say the mech. advance springs were "shot" was an understatement, and looong unavailable to replace.

    I went with, and reccomend, the MSD Ready-To-Run distributor.
    You can run with a box, like so many folks want to, AND if the box takes a s**t (like happens), you can unplug the R2R dist, and fire up on it alone.
    With the std. MSD dizy, you are looking for a tow, or a LOOOOONG row home.

    Add in the choice of user-selectable advance curves (mine is set to come on about 1200RPM and have 25* in by arround 2500RPM, seccond fastest curve available) and that just frosts the cake IMO.

    The boat started easy with the stock setup, and no real improvement there since, other than the advance springs, the points setup was in good condition.

    It's a lot like an "oil" question, everyone likes what they had good luck with, and anything else is inferior. The end is your call.

    I WILL tell you you LEGALLY NEED to go "marine" (yea, extra $$$$) in that Taylor, due to the covered engine.
    If you do or not, your call.
    I did.

    Best of luck to you.
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    Don't worry, I'm definantinly going marine! So the RTR MSD, is just that...a drop in and go (set timing of course, which I'm still in the dark about), with no box? That's just what I'm looking for. Where did you get yours? Does the tach, and everything else still hook up the same? Off topic, I think I'm running a little lean also. At 2300-2500rpm, I have a popping coming from the carb. I'm going to pull it and see what jets are in it, and have the whole thing gone through. Thanks for all the help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBoatCop View Post
    Don't worry, I'm definantinly going marine! So the RTR MSD, is just that...a drop in and go (set timing of course, which I'm still in the dark about), with no box? That's just what I'm looking for. Where did you get yours? Does the tach, and everything else still hook up the same? Off topic, I think I'm running a little lean also. At 2300-2500rpm, I have a popping coming from the carb. I'm going to pull it and see what jets are in it, and have the whole thing gone through. Thanks for all the help!
    Yes, tach is the same, I bought my dizzy and coil (went all out with High-Vibration coil) at Summit Racing (the catologue guys).

    Bought MSD Super Conductor wires local, at an Advance Automotive (1.5 Ohms per foot resistor wire, instead of 4,000 Ohms per foot normal resistor wire), just becasuse.
    No noise on the stereo.

    Set the timing 10* base, and run the 2nd from the quickest of the setups available with the distrib (instructions included which involve the lightest and the next to lightest spring), set for 25* advance (which is by a colored stop bushing (in the instructions), and it'll run just great.
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBoatCop View Post
    Don't worry, I'm definantinly going marine! So the RTR MSD, is just that...a drop in and go (set timing of course, which I'm still in the dark about), with no box? That's just what I'm looking for. Where did you get yours? Does the tach, and everything else still hook up the same? Off topic, I think I'm running a little lean also. At 2300-2500rpm, I have a popping coming from the carb. I'm going to pull it and see what jets are in it, and have the whole thing gone through. Thanks for all the help!
    I had a popping noise from the carb too, and another $3K later and rebuilt engine, it went away. We just put the motor in today, and with using all MSD ignition equipment, its a big step forward.
    boatless....

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    Don't for get to dig out that dropping resistor, when you change over to electronic ignitions, some times it's a resistive wire taped up in the harness.

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    Yep, no Ballast Resistor required.
    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
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    The rest of us are being dragged along kicking and screaming.

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