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    i would like to lose my rev cable and use a 2.5 lb bottle of co2 w/ regulator to knock it down to 125-150 psi and need a recommendation for the air cylinder and switches to operate my bucket. i need a 3" stroke on the double acting air cylinder to open & close. one racer from AZ said he uses a e/p shuttle valve mounted on the transom to keep the lines as short as possible. any part #`s mfr names or pics would be a big help thanks.

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    i have no idea and would be curious as to how it works but might i ask why you would make such a simple system so complicated as to make it numatic? Or am i missing something...
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    the ensueing fire would likely be extinguished by the sinking however

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    most of the racers here in the west coast are running them. I have a 10oz CO2 bottle that I used for the reverse bucket for sale, Less pressure the better in my opinion and using a larger cylinder will help save the reverse bucket. I'm sure a few other guys wil chime in here and give you some suggestions. Remember you will lose neutral, you will only have forward and reverse. I wouldn't use it on anything were docking is necessary.

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    i just heard that jack at mpd has the set up i need, most of the NJBA guys use this.

    this is a drag race only app.
    i never had reverse before,(race nozzle)
    i will not lose nuetral (imo)
    the boat has no way of knowing who is holding the bucket closed ,
    the old cable or the air cylinder.
    i always use a paddle when docking or get on and off the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich s View Post
    this is a drag race only app.

    Thats pretty sweet.. Since i dont race i dont know but do you use reverse racing than you normally would?
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    the ensueing fire would likely be extinguished by the sinking however

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    how are you going to sit still ideling on the holding rope waiting for your lite w/o nuetral?

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    Reverse acutally becomes neutral because with an R nozzle there is no reverse shute, and on the place diverter the reverse is block off. Holes are drilled in the side of the bucket to have the water out the sides to help in holding still on the holding rope.

    Since it is a race app, DO IT!!! You will be so happy you did. I just have a switch on the steering wheel operating a solenoid valve from a CO2 tank. I built mine myself and it would probably save you time and money if you call Jack at MPD and get the complete kit. If you are not running a pop off valve, a 10oz bottle will last several races. I found the cylinder on mcmaster.com and the soldenoid valve is a little tougher to find. I did a google search to find mine, I then used 1/8 nylon tubing to plumb to and from the cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkieDave View Post
    how are you going to sit still ideling on the holding rope waiting for your lite w/o nuetral?
    Duh... it makes total sense now... Thanks!!
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    the ensueing fire would likely be extinguished by the sinking however

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    **Attention: Shameless Plug**
    When you guys need the bottles filled... bring em' down and I'll do em' cheap if you're on the boards... sometimes (all the time) I trade for pit wristbands
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    Quote Originally Posted by 454Rocket View Post
    **Attention: Shameless Plug**
    When you guys need the bottles filled... bring em' down and I'll do em' cheap if you're on the boards... sometimes (all the time) I trade for pit wristbands
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    Do you fill Nitrous bottles aswell or just C02?

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    thank you Widomaker for the advice,
    i heard the shuttle valve jack recommends is from england,
    i have looked through Mcmaster carr and graingers to explore
    this
    before i heard about this shuttle v stuff, i thought i would use the same
    stuff that the hydro guys use to chunk them in and outa gear.
    (clippard cylinders and switches)
    flip the switch & mash the alcohol pedal.(can`t wait)

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    Default nuetral

    I have converted mine to hydraulic. Use the same system as the diverter. This way I can still use it at the lake/river. gives me a little more flexability. Takes lass than 2 seconds from nuetral to full open, fast enouph that I can start early on my countdown.

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    Default 4-way pneumatic valve

    http://www.pneumadyne.com/getPartDet...PartNmbrID=165

    Here is a link to the valve I use. PN HP45-100-DT mounts on stearing wheel.


    Last edited by John Mills; 02-21-2009 at 07:41 PM. Reason: New PN

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    any of you guys ever have a problem by loosing pressure and the bucket closing? I remember seeing mikes setup and thinking it would be a good idea to have a spring or somthing to force open the bucket if you lose pressure. I'm curious what happens if the bucket closes while mashing the gas, does it just fly open? rip off? does it make the boat do anything funny?

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