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    Some of you are aware, that myself and 71Hallet have developed a full powered hydraulic down plate system for Vdrives (Vdrive forum "Hydraulic Down Pedal"). As an ex jet boat owner, an having had a Jet-O-Vator in it, I have been asked if a similar powered system could be developed, so that High Performance Jet Boat driver could have a quick acting down pedal, such as we have. This would allow both hands to remain firmly on the wheel during launch and set. If there is interest in this I would need the assistance of someone with a performance boat that already has the Jet-OVator installed, that is some what local (west/central California). We need to do calibrations on cable travel, cable load, and handle load. Would appreciate some input.
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    It would make a great set up. That would be a way to go. Plus you could get the nozzle exactly where it would need to be, and not have to worry about playing the shim game as much.

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    dennis, most racers i know of that use a diverter are using the place e/h system, or some variation of it. off the top, i can only think of one racer that uses a handle/cable (and has had a lot of success with it), but he is way back east. it's desirable to use the e/h system because it's much more exact and repeatable than the cable operated diverter, in a race application.
    with the place e/h system, the slave is attached at the nozzle. there's no reason a pedal couldn't be adapted to drive the slave, but it's difficult to know what the demand might be. some are using timers to operate the e/h system, which probably wouldn't be possible with the manual pedal.

    anyway, just 2 cents worth...

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    I love my left pedal in my jet!...but it does absolutely nothing for my diverter, that would be neat if it did!

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    I sold my jet in 76', so I am way out of my element on this and have no clue what the latest mouse traps are. I do know that we have awesome control of our flats with a good pedal system. I am sure there are some sharp people out there that have toyed with this, and there may only be little to no interest. Sounds like it would be fun to play with though
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    My fwd/rev pedal assy. is 100% mech. and think that there is more than enough room to improve on it, I think that a Diverter deal would be trick, and not only for racers, but your everyday boater would stand to be safer to keep both hands on the wheel.
    any pics of your deal?

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    Dennis, Josh designed and built a Place diverter "manual overide" several years ago , its left foot operated hand free and moves the trim (up only) form the preset , makes for a "mad" up trim after "down" launch Tom

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    The circle jet boat guys cold possibly benifit from the hydraulic actuator, at least the guys running adjustable plates.
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    Dennis, my question is ... what constitutes someone as a "hard core" racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUSBY View Post
    Dennis, my question is ... what constitutes someone as a "hard core" racer

    My guess is anyone who has ever been or raced in a mini truck club. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUSBY View Post
    Dennis, my question is ... what constitutes someone as a "hard core" racer
    I bet he is talking about any one that pushes the limits of them selves, and boat. Inclucing the guys that have sick 120mph jet boats!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneysucker View Post
    My guess is anyone who has ever been or raced in a mini truck club. lol.
    cool, I'm in

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUSBY View Post
    Dennis, my question is ... what constitutes someone as a "hard core" racer
    Brian, Are you alive and well?? This is really a backdoor question-to me it means a person that will put out the $$ on an item that will enhance the performance of what one could classify as a "normal (if there is such a thing) ride". How's the fuel sales going in this economy for you??
    Tom, Donnie told me that Josh had built a pretty trick system-thanks for posting it. If we developed a system, or slaved a control cable to our current hydraulic system, it would include both up and down. If I decide to dabble in this I will need some advice from you on several points.
    Photos of the hydraulics can be seen on the Vdrive forum under "Hydraulic Down Pedal".
    Thanks for the input guys. We are very interested in developing products that can help promote the sport as well as make driving safer.
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    Are we talking about plates or nozzles that are actuated by the down pedal? There are a few of the circle guys running plates and they can seriously put on the brakes and turn.

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