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    Here is a Question: Impact of a Impeller which loads Harder then a Aggressor, yet cuts 280 Rs off a 450 HP Motor and can handle up to 600 HP in Alum. Format.

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    where do i sign up for 1 i like the bite of a aggressor

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPATIENT 1 View Post
    where do i sign up for 1 i like the bite of a aggressor
    The Impeller is under test now in 3 diff. size exit ports... The question now is: as is, or as a Big Mouth Like we produced several years ago. The Big mouth is a true 9 1/8 Inlet Impeller, yet retains the bowl clearance of a 9" Impeller. The Larger exit port as a 9" Impeller(Mag Bronze)has matched the Test Boats Best speed ever running only the back 1/2 of the track @ 128 and learned later on a hurt motor.

    The Alum. Model was a comparison of our AAA to AAA and cut the Rs

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    Pops do you think there will be any of these impellers to sell, or will they be only for testing purposes? It sounds like this impeller works as well as the Hi-Tech Hi-Helix stainless. I cant wait to hear some more test results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJG View Post
    It sounds like this impeller works as well as the Hi-Tech Hi-Helix stainless.

    more like the AMERICAN TURBINE hi helix. Miss information can be a bad thing.
    rondane

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJG View Post
    Pops do you think there will be any of these impellers to sell, or will they be only for testing purposes? It sounds like this impeller works as well as the Hi-Tech Hi-Helix stainless. I cant wait to hear some more test results.
    LOL the current Aggressor works better then any on the market... The rest has been sales Jobs ... Some I know have tried it and came back... I learned a long time ago, its what's in stock is the best ever... Thats how the marketing works... Yet most the Runners I know are still running the same old Aggressor Mag's & few S/Steel.
    We right now are finishing the tooling up so I won't need to do as much detail to finish the Impeller's up. Every Impeller I do full detail on.
    Next Year we are going to a much more open market on our Products, Kits and Rebuilds. I started last month putting capital into inventory to build up for a early release... Metals have dropped and pricing will be stable or down, so we will see... If the new Impeller is a full go, then the existing will be marketed as a leader product for rebuilds etc. This will make John @ Big "A" Happy... He's been on my rear for years to do this....
    School has been Out for a lot of the builders... Its Water In, Water Out... thats what drive's a jet... So a Impellers flow needs to match the bowls flow... or you have a miss match... then you match the choke (Insert to those the must call it so) to the load.
    The Larger the choke size (which can maintain proper internal pressures) the quicker... Quicker is not always faster... The Mid West Boys are starting to understand this better then West Coast... Seems like W/C ran out its numbers several years ago (TPR)
    and some took a short break I hope.... (Records also reflect what I am saying) I recently heard of a TPR bottom taken off & bet the guy who put his bottom on it had not a clue what & why... Now the hull runs nose high... yes it runs higher and dryer but one day shit will happen & no margin left!!! No need to do that today with the H/Power... Let the H/Power and the Pump Drive the boat like a Dart... You go home after the race... maybe you get beat 1 out of 20... and in chop... The other boat looks like a Joke... It can't run at all... Water In Water Out....
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    "Yet most the Runners I know are still running the same old Aggressor Mag's & few S/Steel."


    Pops I thought Kirkman and Nagore were setting records with the Hi-Helix impeller. At least thats what they said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    LOL the current Aggressor works better then any on the market... The rest has been sales Jobs ... Some I know have tried it and came back... I learned a long time ago, its what's in stock is the best ever... Thats how the marketing works... Yet most the Runners I know are still running the same old Aggressor Mag's & few S/Steel.
    We right now are finishing the tooling up so I won't need to do as much detail to finish the Impeller's up. Every Impeller I do full detail on.
    Next Year we are going to a much more open market on our Products, Kits and Rebuilds. I started last month putting capital into inventory to build up for a early release... Metals have dropped and pricing will be stable or down, so we will see... If the new Impeller is a full go, then the existing will be marketed as a leader product for rebuilds etc. This will make John @ Big "A" Happy... He's been on my rear for years to do this....
    School has been Out for a lot of the builders... Its Water In, Water Out... thats what drive's a jet... So a Impellers flow needs to match the bowls flow... or you have a miss match... then you match the choke (Insert to those the must call it so) to the load.
    The Larger the choke size (which can maintain proper internal pressures) the quicker... Quicker is not always faster... The Mid West Boys are starting to understand this better then West Coast... Seems like W/C ran out its numbers several years ago (TPR)
    and some took a short break I hope.... (Records also reflect what I am saying) I recently heard of a TPR bottom taken off & bet the guy who put his bottom on it had not a clue what & why... Now the hull runs nose high... yes it runs higher and dryer but one day shit will happen & no margin left!!! No need to do that today with the H/Power... Let the H/Power and the Pump Drive the boat like a Dart... You go home after the race... maybe you get beat 1 out of 20... and in chop... The other boat looks like a Joke... It can't run at all... Water In Water Out....
    that's funny about big j west pops
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondane View Post
    more like the AMERICAN TURBINE hi helix. Miss information can be a bad thing.
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    Are you saying a Hi Tech Hi Helix at 9 1/2" can out pull a Aggressor @ 9 1/2"... I will bet you the aggressor impeller will pull at least 800+ Rs right off your motor or more... No I will do you one better, our's will do it at 9 1/8" size... Before you jump in with both feet... understand your 9 1/2 is nothing but an oversized 9" impeller marketed as a 9 1/2" impeller. Dan Kirkman tried a Aggressor 9 1/8 in Awesome Toy a Fuel boat and got hit 1600 Rs...
    The mouth water entree did not change... proof is measure the inside dia. and check and see if an aggressor,berkeley wear ring fits the entry... Its an oversize impeller (Exit side) If it don't work good as a 9" Cut the diameter bigger so you can cut the vanes longer.... only you now need to bore the bowl larger to get the Impeller inside. We pulled our Big Mouth Impeller off of the market as it did increase the mouth entree size, However it needed big horsepower to run it... So to be fair we waited for the industry and Torque to catch up....LOL
    However in the case of the newer design, it provides us with a method to replace the old with new in a stronger version for H/P increase. I still think a lot will prefer the Old as it will fit a specific motor maybe better... Remember it has been measured at output flow of just under 4900 GPM. that's a awesome number on a 9" Impeller pump.

    That's like this newer higher flowing Inducer... what the heck good did that do... The current one's on the market overflow the pumps now... So induce more reversion into the pump... Good Marketing... bad idea!

    Is this Impeller to advanced thats why I posted... Its more aggressive and stronger by design... Will it fill the bill as a B cut B/C Cut we need to find out... Torque has boosted sizable since we released the Impeller...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro Mod View Post
    that's funny about big j west pops
    Is that your boat in Photo... The art work is dope... In my day we called it Bad, in my older brothers day it was Cherry, In my oldest Brothers day it was Neat... Now he would say who did what!

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    Pops if this is too much of a threadjack just ignore me...but I just picked up a agressor impeller for my split berk, would bowl choice make much difference for me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJG View Post
    "Yet most the Runners I know are still running the same old Aggressor Mag's & few S/Steel."


    Pops I thought Kirkman and Nagore were setting records with the Hi-Helix impeller. At least thats what they said.
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    A/T the time I don't know... I think 08... All Franks B/Gas were Aggressor and then some... What Impeller he ran after change I do not know... the last time I had seen his pump it was a mis-matched beast, in that nothing fit anything else... I offered to re-build it for 08 and put it back to a interchangeable pump again... I was never told other until he crashed... So that maybe so... I am also not sure what if any records Frank got after that.

    Kirkman, Dan, oh Dan, Dan kicks everyone out of his camp... Tom, Harold, Me, Yet when he discussed his approach to why... I did agree with him and support his reason... He also did a A/T sponsorship Yet is searching today to get his record... Dan will get his record and when he gets it, I am not sure any product manufacture will get to say what the combination will be... Dan's point is it's his money, his crew, and any record belongs to them... You cannot dispute that... I helped talk Dan into the Hull to run, but Dan was uneasy on what the set up being ran was and why... He wanted to control every reason and the why's... I have a Faith contact with Dan every day and talk to him about the why's and when's monthly on his Jet Boat set up. Dan is down to simple changes and set up's and the direction to obtain maximum efficiency. I also know of others he is having work done by and after that it is Dan's to tell if he ever want's to... But he has my full support, dang that record go's all the way back to Shannon Stewert! 6.93 Top Fuel
    come on... Thats like the 40s or something!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondane View Post
    more like the AMERICAN TURBINE hi helix. Miss information can be a bad thing.
    rondane
    Jane you ignorant slut (but then, you ARE an expert on mis-information, and spreading it, far and wide).
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