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    Thinking about modifying my trailer from the current floater bar setup to a bow roller and a winch setup, but before I do I was wondering if there is a possible reason that it needs the floater bar and not a hard tie down in the front. If it does need the floater bar I will just build a mount to get the winch to the same height as the bow eye. Thanks in advance for any info.
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    Pictures always help.
    But why would you need a wench for a 18' boat ?
    We use a floater on the 21' Glencoe and it is easy as pie to load on the trailer. If you are going to do a wench, make sure the strap and hook go under the bow roller. It is safer going down the road, it helps keep the boat from landing in the tow vehicle when the worst happens, accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 74glencoe View Post
    Thinking about modifying my trailer from the current floater bar setup to a bow roller and a winch setup, but before I do I was wondering if there is a possible reason that it needs the floater bar and not a hard tie down in the front. If it does need the floater bar I will just build a mount to get the winch to the same height as the bow eye. Thanks in advance for any info.
    No, there is no real good reason I am aware of NOT to run a winch.

    I've seen enough boats with eyes ripped out from the boat slipping on the ramp leaving the water, to believe, personally, that planty of good reasons exist NOT to use a floater bar. I never will.

    A friend of mine has an Omega with a floater bar trailer, and the trailer flexes like mad, bad enough that some previous owner had to weld up the joint where the front side beams meet the first cross member, and gusset the joints.
    Not a single crack in my trailer, but other factors may be involved here, his being u-channel, mine being box-section, his trailer having no center beam to triangulate the forward section of trailer to stiffen it (the main one IMO).

    My trailer under Lowrider has had a winch for 31 years, Lowrider is no worse for it.

    My trailer does not use a roller, but a v-block for the bow, and the bow eye butts directly up against the aft side of it, with the winch rope/strap running under it, basically pulling the eye against the block for a stop.
    I don't have pictures of it, sorry.

    Mine merely uses 3 sections of u-channel, 2, slightly narrower (trailer tube size) for the "legs", a slightly wider section of U-Channel, that lays over the top of the legs, flat side up, long enough to hold both the winch ahead of the bow, and the block at the rear end of it, and 2 pieces of steel strap, welded on the sides, at the rear, to hold the block on.
    The block is through-bolted bolt/strap/block/strap/washer/nut.
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    i had a bad experiance with a floater had my boat hooked up to it went to pull out some idiot went flying by and his boats wake kicked the back of my boat up and it went backwards and tore up the eye area now have a winch helps also on some of the steep ramps we have here.just my 12 cents worth

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    I prefer a winch and a roller for the bow to rest on so it don't bounce going down the road. You get the ramp depth right you don't really use the winch except to hook the boat tight. Roller ends the guess work. Just pull boat up to roller and hook it up, no trying to hit the hole in the floatbar. The pic below is not my boat but it is how mine is set up.

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    I went the opposite way, my trailer had this funky bow support(no winch). I had Enduro trailer here in Havasu, cut it off and put a floater bar. It works better, but the bow bounces more, so I had him put a rubber roller between the bow and a lower brace, nice and secure now. I think either way works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sksadie View Post
    I went the opposite way, my trailer had this funky bow support(no winch). I had Enduro trailer here in Havasu, cut it off and put a floater bar. It works better, but the bow bounces more, so I had him put a rubber roller between the bow and a lower brace, nice and secure now. I think either way works.
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    hey larry, i have a similar set-up but i have a chain instead of a strap. i know you dont tow far but is that strap perm...??i just dont trust straps..you know stretch /slide loose

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    I hate my floater bar. It's a pain in the ass to line up. If the ramp is too step or the trailer is a little too deep it hits the bow of my boat around the eye. I have been aware of it and make sure to check it when I load the boat but the damage from previous owners loading it was already done.

    I'll be changing to a winch or at the very least a bar made with a flat end like sksadie's rather than square tube this winter. I really like the way it is setup in the pic GasGuzzler posted



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    i swapped out my floater for a winch.. with a couple of straps on the back and there is zero bounce or flex even doing 90 up a mountain trying to catch gas guzzler on 77.


    never follow that dude!!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by GasGuzzler View Post
    I prefer a winch and a roller for the bow to rest on so it don't bounce going down the road. You get the ramp depth right you don't really use the winch except to hook the boat tight. Roller ends the guess work. Just pull boat up to roller and hook it up, no trying to hit the hole in the floatbar. The pic below is not my boat but it is how mine is set up.
    Similar setup to mine, except mine has 2 columns, not one, and the horizontal on mine is not tilted, is flat level. It works great.
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    Have to admit Floaters look cool but are a real PITA on a bigger boat like my 20" can't tell you how I cuss that thing on a rough day at the ramp , damn near lost a finger once I'm thinking of a winch in the future for that one allows a little shallower retreival and fast "centering' tom

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    Sorry for no pics guys, my internet is running super slow right now, they told me it is running slow because "I am over my FCC alowance for the month for broadband". Should speed back up in a couple days. Mine looks like sksadie's prettymuch right now, It is just a pain in the ass to load on a shallow beach, which is where we have to be for all the young kiddos in our group and I hate ramp launching, had an idiot hit the fender on my trailer once while he was backing in. There are just to many people on the ramps that have no idea how to pull or back a trailer. We had to load once with no motor due to bad alternator and we had to back so far in the lake you could barely see the trailer in order to hand push the boat onto the trailer.
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    Here are a couple pics, as you can see the floater bar is flat like sksadies, but I want a winch to load in shallower water and not trying to get it in the perfect spot by just driving it. kind og hard to see, bit there is a roller on the keel just above the plane of the trailer in the first pic.Click image for larger version. 

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    I've had both and i think the winch is a pain in the butt personaly on a little jetboat, i've been thinking of getting rid of my winch for the old school setup.
    Nice!

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