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    Default Nitrous bottle heater recommendations

    I've got an Edelbrock unit right now. Had it for years, but it's never really worked. It's wired up properly with the factory supplied relay, but the nominal voltage (says right on the heater element) is 13.7 VDC. My battery will show 13.1 VDC at rest and it flat doesn't work at all when the motor is off. In fact, even while it's running my magnum one wire alternator is only putting out 14 VDC at best. It's just not enough juice to power this thing and it barely gets warm at all.
    This is the one I have now.



    Fortunately we don't have to deal with cold temps here enough for it to really be a factor. Still, it would be nice to have a heater that works for the first and last month of the boating season. More than once I found myself cussing under my breath when it just woudn't hit due to low pressure/cold temps.

    I'm hoping somebody out there makes a more efficient heater. Can anybody recommend one that works and only requires a true 12 VDC (or closer to it anyway)? I've checked ads and they'll tell you the power the heater puts out in watts, but don't say how much voltage it takes to run one.

    I did find this one that shows various wattages vs. voltages. Nice looking unit, but I don't know if I can make it fit my bracket. If you buy it with the bracket/heater as a complete unit it's like $300 bones.

    Thanks in advance.

    Dan

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    Dan....I've heard those heaters work like shit and take forever to warm. I've recently had good luck with CS19 holding my bottle on the transom directly behind the header to let the hot exhaust gasses warm the bottle. Worked like a champ except for the damage to Chris's hearing.

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    I am sure you know but make sure your heater is on the under side of the bottle, you could also put a blanket on it with the heater to help. I use to run a NOS brand heater in my street car and it would heat up great with the car off just sitting in the lanes.

    If its just a drag racing use only deal we use the hot tanks to heat up the bottles in the pits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudPumper View Post
    Dan....I've heard those heaters work like shit and take forever to warm. I've recently had good luck with CS19 holding my bottle on the transom directly behind the header to let the hot exhaust gasses warm the bottle. Worked like a champ except for the damage to Chris's hearing.
    Are you saying all heaters work like shit Mike, or just the one I pictured above? Maybe they all suck?

    I might have trouble tracking Chris down when it comes time to make a pass. Sounds like he probably wouldn't hear me yelling for him either.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwinTurbo540 View Post
    I am sure you know but make sure your heater is on the under side of the bottle, you could also put a blanket on it with the heater to help. I use to run a NOS brand heater in my street car and it would heat up great with the car off just sitting in the lanes.

    If its just a drag racing use only deal we use the hot tanks to heat up the bottles in the pits.

    Travis
    Nah I don't race. It's just for fun at the river/lakes. Like I said it's normally not much of an issue due to our 100+ degree summer days. It's just for the odd cool day at the beginning and end of season. My heater pretty much surrounds the entire bottle (see photo above), but it is positioned under like it's supposed to be.

    Sounds like maybe the NOS brand heaters work better. I'm assuming the race car used a 12VDC battery/system? Not running a 14VDC or 16VDC race battery? '

    The blanket is a good idea. I've been thinking about getting one.

    Thanks for the input
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    I've got one from ARC. Only tested it in the shop so far. It took a bottle at 600 psi and got it up to 1000 psi in 22 minutes. I have the bottle temps written down but dont know what they were off the top of my head.

    Didn't try the auto feature yet.

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    I have the ARC dual voltage deal. You can plug it in to any 120 v. supply. I use a Honda generator or shop plug. Or, I ran the 12 v. side to a 7 pin connector & plug it into my pickup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    I've got one from ARC. Only tested it in the shop so far. It took a bottle at 600 psi and got it up to 1000 psi in 22 minutes. I have the bottle temps written down but dont know what they were off the top of my head.

    Didn't try the auto feature yet.
    Hmmn. Maybe my expectations are too high. That's longer than I thought it would take. I know you do your homework Mike and don't buy crap products, so I'm guessing I just need to be more patient. I just went out to the garage and tried mine again. It does get warm, but not very and it's putting a huge drain on the battery.

    I like the warning on the instructions page where it says "caution may reach 400 degrees". Trust me when I say, you'll never get burned by mine.

    My worry obviously is that with only one battery, I'll heat the bottle up and kill the battery in the process then have to hitchhike home.

    Quote Originally Posted by RIVER4FUN View Post
    I have the ARC dual voltage deal. You can plug it in to any 120 v. supply. I use a Honda generator or shop plug. Or, I ran the 12 v. side to a 7 pin connector & plug it into my pickup.
    I saw those while looking around. It's a neat idea, but not practical for what I do (again........casual river/lake boater). My truck is usually parked 5 miles away (or more) and I don't want to have to tote a generator along.

    Photos below show voltage drop. Freshly charged known good battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtcha? View Post
    Hmmn. Maybe my expectations are too high. That's longer than I thought it would take. I know you do your homework Mike and don't buy crap products, so I'm guessing I just need to be more patient. I just went out to the garage and tried mine again. It does get warm, but not very and it's putting a huge drain on the battery.

    I like the warning on the instructions page where it says caution may reach 400 degrees. Trust me when I say, you'll never get burned by mine.

    My worry obviously is that with only one battery, I'll heat the bottle up and kill the battery in the process then have to hitchhike home.



    I saw those while looking around. It's a neat idea, but not practical for what I do (again........casual river/lake boater). My truck is usually parked 5 miles away (or more) and I don't want to have to tote a generator along.

    Photos below show voltage drop. Freshly charged known good battery.

    ya i dont plan on using the 12v side of it because it will kill the tiny battery I have in my boat. You'd be better off using Mudpumper's Drunk Buddy Warmer.

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    Come on man..........get serious. Where the heck am I gonna find a drunk buddy at the river?

    This was a rough one (if I remember right). Bet you wish I'da lost this one eh Joey? Bring your oven mitts pal. You are the offical drunk buddy bottle holder dude.

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    hahaha!! you guys need to stop playing around with open headers

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    Dan, NX has a product called Fire and Ice that might work but there's no feed back on the pro and con's of the product.This heat's the bottle and cool's the bottle.Check it out!!!It's only $373.00.Hope this help's.


    Jim S
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustler View Post
    hahaha!! you guys need to stop playing around with open headers
    He started it.

    Quote Originally Posted by cheyenne580 View Post
    Dan, NX has a product called Fire and Ice that might work but there's no feed back on the pro and con's of the product.Tis heat's the bottle and cool's the bottle.Check it out!!!It's only $373.00.Hope this help's.
    Jim S
    To heck with it Jim. I'm just gonna get a blower.

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    Question no more bottle heater or purge??

    Squirtcha,
    I was checking out the different options and ran into this site. Ever hear of them? It sounds too good to be true.

    www.bossseats.com/street/about/Nitrous/index.asp

    They claim:
    BOSS NOSS is the first and only systems that lets you leave your purging systems at home, quit heating your bottle, throw away pressure gauges, get rid of the monotonous manometer and hold down your nitrous button for as long as you need to win.100% Regulation, Consistency and Performance is finally attainable using BOSS NOSS. No headaches, no pressure gauges, no jetting for varying hits, NO MORE GUESSWORK! Just complete and total Horsepower with 100% Regulation.

    The Best Technology Ever:
    Obsolete Nitrous Oxide "experts" will tell you that you need 700-900 PSI in your bottle in order to get an effective Horsepower increase. When they hear that our patent-pending pressure regulator regulates bottle pressure down to 300 PSI they tell us it won't work - they say you need more pressure to push Nitrous to the motor. Have they ever stuck their heads in front of Nitrous Oxide spraying out a line at 300 PSI? Or have they forgotten that gasoline travels through their machines at a measly 5-10 PSI?

    The simple truth is that the BOSS NOSS nitrous pressure regulator does the previously unthinkable: delivers constantly regulated nitrous flow from bottle to motor at any temperature or pressure. And it does it without the use of bottle heaters, water manometers and purging systems.

    What do you think? Can it be used on a real motor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtcha? View Post
    Come on man..........get serious. Where the heck am I gonna find a drunk buddy at the river?

    This was a rough one (if I remember right). Bet you wish I'da lost this one eh Joey? Bring your oven mitts pal. You are the offical drunk buddy bottle holder dude.

    anytime

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