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    So...long story short, my starter is not allowing me to get the full engagement I need. I have a CVR high torque starter w/180 degree adjustment for clearance purposes. Now..I took some pictures with my phone to visually get an idea whats going on. It seems that, the starter housing needs to be more in towards the drivers side to get full contact.

    My question is....Does it matter if I rotate the starter adapter that allows clearance for the housing gonna make a difference? Is there a way to shim a starter thats not mounted to the block? Would it be okay to (possibly) ablong the two starter bolt holes to where it's closer with the flexplate? Has anyone else had this problem, or will as different starter just totally fix this problem? Any ideas & help please. Thanks.


    This second picture I actually pulled the gear outward a bit to get an idea where its meshed with the flexplate.

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    As far as I know you get 2 types of starters for Ford. One is for a flex plate, the other is for a normal flywheel.

    Just make sure that you ordered the correct one. Sometimes they need to be shimmed to properly engage the ring gear.

    Failing to get the proper clearance will almost always lead to failure on the starter gear.

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    Have you by any chance tried a factory '94 and newer 460 mini ? Sure would make it easy if on craps out on yah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet mad View Post
    As far as I know you get 2 types of starters for Ford. One is for a flex plate, the other is for a normal flywheel.

    Just make sure that you ordered the correct one. Sometimes they need to be shimmed to properly engage the ring gear.

    Failing to get the proper clearance will almost always lead to failure on the starter gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So.Bay*310* View Post
    So...long story short, my starter is not allowing me to get the full engagement I need. I have a CVR high torque starter w/180 degree adjustment for clearance purposes. Now..I took some pictures with my phone to visually get an idea whats going on. It seems that, the starter housing needs to be more in towards the drivers side to get full contact.

    My question is....Does it matter if I rotate the starter adapter that allows clearance for the housing gonna make a difference? Is there a way to shim a starter thats not mounted to the block? Would it be okay to (possibly) ablong the two starter bolt holes to where it's closer with the flexplate? Has anyone else had this problem, or will as different starter just totally fix this problem? Any ideas & help please. Thanks.


    This second picture I actually pulled the gear outward a bit to get an idea where its meshed with the flexplate.
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    I have always used the plate that sandwiches between the block and the bell or motor plate. this always lines the standard or mini ford starter right on the money no shimming needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cp562 View Post
    I have always used the plate that sandwiches between the block and the bell or motor plate. this always lines the standard or mini ford starter right on the money no shimming needed.
    This is the way to do it. Fords don't use starter shims, the flywheel and starter both bolt to the block and are automatically located as such.

    One you start depending on the motor plate to locate the starter, you are also depending on the machining of the motor plate's starter pocket to be dead-on correct. Instead, make the motorplate's starter pocket oversize and use the engine block plate's starter pocket to correctly locate the starter motor.

    Hopefully you have the 164 tooth flywheel. Like Squirtin' Thunder said, the 1994-1997 mini-starter for an F250 should be plenty; I've seen them effortlessly start 665 cubic inch 4-figure Fords.

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