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    HELP! I just finished putting together my motor in the boat and it started right up and runs great, only one problem after a little bit i started hearing some noise from the rockers so i pulled the valve covers off and low and behold, no oil up there except for the bit i poured when i put the motor together.....

    Does anyone have any problems like this or has anyone ever ran into one?

    Its a 1976 Ford 460 BB

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    Fords don't oil their rockers.

    Switch it out for a BB Chevy if you want oil to your valvetrain.
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    did you prime it? what weight oil? its takes awhile to get up there. What was you oil presure? hope you didnt leave out an oil gallery plug. I never fire my engine until i get oil out of ever push rod. might have to turn the engine over by hand, but time is way cheaper than parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futs View Post
    did you prime it? what weight oil? its takes awhile to get up there. What was you oil presure? hope you didnt leave out an oil gallery plug. I never fire my engine until i get oil out of ever push rod. might have to turn the engine over by hand, but time is way cheaper than parts.
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    well i thought i had oil pressure because oil came out of the area where the oil pressure guage goes but i guess i was mistaken haha ( i know i'm an idiot) i took out the oil pressure sending unit and replaced it with a mechanical guage and viola, no oil pressure, took the hose off the guage and oil just very slowly came dripping out of it, I don't have much experience with fords but on a chevy it should come shooting out even at idle so somethings wrong with my pump...

    I guess i'll pull the engine out tomorrow morning and see...stupid fords hahaha
    i'm gonna replace it with a powerstroke, i've got 177k on my 06 powerstroke and its still as strong as it was the day i bought it.

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    I had a 460 oil pump blow the pressed in plug out of the oil pump pressure spring housing! Crappy design flaw. The plug needs to be peened in or drilled and cotter pined. Also a lighter oil pressure spring is available.

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    Do you guys have Autozones there? I just 'rented' an oil primer for my motor from them, it's not really a rental, more of a loaner......you give a deposit and they'll give it back. The guys in the 'dyno' section said the spin the motor (by hand) while priming. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Futs View Post
    did you prime it? what weight oil? its takes awhile to get up there. What was you oil presure? hope you didnt leave out an oil gallery plug. I never fire my engine until i get oil out of ever push rod. might have to turn the engine over by hand, but time is way cheaper than parts.
    I agree 100% with Futs. Rent an oil primer, maybe it hasen't picked up it's prime.

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    Call me crazy but if you didn't prime the oiling system and then ran the engine for anything over, oh, say a second you might consider looking at the bearings, Bad things happen when they don't have oil.

    You could also pull the filter just to see if oil made it that far.

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    Do not remove the motor !! Just remove the front cover and check the galley plugs. If all the plugs are installed up front remove the intake and check the 2 plugs that make up the crossover.
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    If the 2 front plugs are missing = remember that one is a std pipe plug the other is not.
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    I did prime the oil pump, for about 20 minutes and never got oil up there, figured maybe it was because i wasn't pumping fast enough or anything

    When you say remove the "front cover" are you talking about the timing chain cover?

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    yep, there are 2 there and 2 in the valley. when you prime it, rotote the engine over by hand to expose the oil holes in the lifters so you can get oil through the push rods. If all the plugs are in, you have other issuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neattouch648 View Post
    I don't have much experience with fords but on a chevy......I did prime the oil pump, for about 20 minutes and never got oil up there,
    Hey chevy-guy: when priming the oil pump from the distributor hole, the drill must spin the oil punp shaft conter-clockwise, not clockwise like a BBC.

    If you are not getting oil to the rocker arm when priming counter-clockwise, then listen very carefully as you prime the oil pump and when you stop priming listen for oil running back to the pan. If you have oil running back to the pan but no oil to the rocker arms, then you probably left a gallery plug out somewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Van View Post
    If the 2 front plugs are missing = remember that one is a std pipe plug the other is not.
    Both front gallery plugs are J-thread, and both the rear gallery plugs are 3/8 NPT. Sheez, Van, do I have to teach you everything?

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