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    Im trying to start my boat, and it has been sitting for awhile. I primed the oil pump and put a few drops of oil in each spark plug hole the other day. Now it seems real hard to turn over even by hand, and when i turn the key it starts to turn over and then just stops. Any ideas guys????? and how hard is it to unhook the pump, heres my setup..
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    Pull the plugs and see if it will spin faster! You might be oil locked or the starter, battery,and connections maybe bad or need cleaning! Just some thoughts! WT


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    Quote Originally Posted by harley222 View Post
    Im trying to start my boat, and it has been sitting for awhile. I primed the iol pump and put a few drops of oil in each spark plug hole the other day. Now it seems real hard to turn over even by hand, and when i turn the key it starts to turn over and then just stops. Any ideas guys????? and how hard is it to unhook the pump, heres my setup..
    Looks like a no fun project to take that drive line apart. Incidentally it looks like you're a little cockeyed there. Even so, I doubt that it's your pump.

    You say you primed the oil pump. I'm assuming that you pulled the distributor to do so. It's possible/probable that when you put the distributor back in that you have advanced your timing. If it's too far advanced it'll do just what you described. If you're relatively sure that you got it stabbed back in the correct spot, have a friend rotate the distributor a bit left and right while you crank it over. You should find a spot where it'll light then you can reset the timing correctly with a light.

    P.S. careful of the wires on the cap when doing this or your buddy will get a good jolt.

    If you're not sure it's in the correct spot then bring the #1 to TDC on compression stroke, point the rotor at #1 plug re-stab the dizzy and try it again.

    Just long distance guessing here. Let's see what everyone else thinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Widetrack View Post
    Pull the plugs and see if it will spin faster! You might be oil locked or the starter, battery,and connections maybe bad or need cleaning! Just some thoughts! WT
    Coby's thoughts were the same as mine. If you put more than a few drops in, I'd follow his direction.
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    Dang Dan, I didn't think of that I belive you hit it on the head! WT


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    Quote Originally Posted by Widetrack View Post
    Dang Dan, I didn't think of that I belive you hit it on the head! WT
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    i did pull the dizzy but i marked it and put it back in the same spot. BUT....to get it to set down in i had to rotate the shaft so will that throw it outta time? sorry if this sounds like a dumb question i just dont know that much about timing..... and i didnt put more then 3-4 drops of oil in the plug holes just thought i would say that cuz oil lock was mentioned... thanks guys for the help im going back out there to try some more....

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    ps grease your jet's zerk fitting with some Red grease , don't forget to put 90 wt in the bowl by removing both "tit"s and forcing oil threw One of the holes until oil comes out the other .
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    Pull your plugs again and try spinning it with the starter. It'll help circulate the oil and tell you if your cranking problem is due to being too far advanced

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    thanks guys im going to try it now i will let ya know how it goes...stay tuned lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtcha? View Post
    Looks like a no fun project to take that drive line apart. Incidentally it looks like you're a little cockeyed there. Even so, I doubt that it's your pump.

    You say you primed the oil pump. I'm assuming that you pulled the distributor to do so. It's possible/probable that when you put the distributor back in that you have advanced your timing. If it's too far advanced it'll do just what you described. If you're relatively sure that you got it stabbed back in the correct spot, have a friend rotate the distributor a bit left and right while you crank it over. You should find a spot where it'll light then you can reset the timing correctly with a light.

    P.S. careful of the wires on the cap when doing this or your buddy will get a good jolt.

    If you're not sure it's in the correct spot then bring the #1 to TDC on compression stroke, point the rotor at #1 plug re-stab the dizzy and try it again.

    Just long distance guessing here. Let's see what everyone else thinks.



    Coby's thoughts were the same as mine. If you put more than a few drops in, I'd follow his direction.
    Sounds like dizzy is a tooth or two off if you had to rotate shaft even just a little that would put it a tooth or two off.just my .02

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    OK here's what i did and what happen. I pulled the plugs, no difference, i turned the dizzy, nothing, i even pulled it out and nothing. so then i put everything back on and used a big pipe wrench and turned the motor over and its ok then it gets real hard then it stops like its hitting something......any ideas....this is a freash motor(is what i was told) so im hoping its not that lol...

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    Pull valve covers and get a buddy to rotate the engine , watch your valve train , when it starts to get hard - see which valves are opening and get a flash light and look in the spark plug hole - see if you have valve interfernnce -- if not check your bottom end with a stehiscope see if you can pin point clunking - on the jet , you may try - taking off your inspection cover while some one is turning over the assembly - check listen for grinding -- keep your hands out of there !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky View Post
    Pull valve covers and get a buddy to rotate the engine , watch your valve train , when it starts to get hard - see which valves are opening and get a flash light and look in the spark plug hole - see if you have valve interfernnce -- if not check your bottom end with a stehiscope see if you can pin point clunking - on the jet , you may try - taking off your inspection cover while some one is turning over the assembly - check listen for grinding -- keep your hands out of there !
    Thank you sir....im gunna give that a try... and the noise it makes when it stops kinda sounds like its comming from the head are..

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    Quote Originally Posted by harley222 View Post
    i did pull the dizzy but i marked it and put it back in the same spot. BUT....to get it to set down in i had to rotate the shaft so will that throw it outta time? sorry if this sounds like a dumb question i just dont know that much about timing..... and i didnt put more then 3-4 drops of oil in the plug holes just thought i would say that cuz oil lock was mentioned... thanks guys for the help im going back out there to try some more....
    If you turned the motor over by hand with the dizzy out and then put the dizzy back in the origional spot you are almost definatly out of time.

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