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    Just heard of this service.
    Anyone ever use this?
    Looks pretty cool if it really works.

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    That's really cool. Wonder if there is one in the local Bay/Central/Sac area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PonyFiveO View Post
    That's really cool. Wonder if there is one in the local Bay/Central/Sac area?
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    I don't buy it, if it were true the cams and lifters would be broken in when purchased. No two engines are a like, component are in different spots engine to engine, comparable to rifle barrels, and markings on the bullets.
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    Cool

    Here we go again.. after the break in what about oil with zink in it? I for one think the flat tappet is doomed and the roller rules

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    It looks like a jig that might work harden your parts for you.... Only problem is that it will marry the parts to that jig.
    Putting them in a block will change the rules and may or may not save the day.




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    Quote Originally Posted by earlbrown View Post
    It looks like a jig that might work harden your parts for you.... Only problem is that it will marry the parts to that jig.
    Putting them in a block will change the rules and may or may not save the day.




    Flat tappet cams belong in a museum not an engine.
    Excellent point

    Even when I used a flat tappet cam > I would NEVER use a known good/used FT-cam and lifters out of a different Mark 4 block
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    I think that it should work fine. The flat tappet lifters are convexed on the end so that they rotate on the camshaft. The lobes do not make full contact with the lifter, so why would a slight alignment difference between the fixture and the engine block make any difference. We have run the factory blocks with flat tappett cams for 30 years without lifter bore alignment issues. Now that roller cams are more common we spend $500.00 to have our lifter bores bushed and indexed, because the lifter bores in the factory blocks that we have been running for years are not perpendicular to the cam. This is evidence that the lifter bore alignment is not so critical with a flat tappett cam. I have not had a flat tappett cam go flat on me, but I have read and heard about several of them going flat in recent years due to the changes in the oil. I think that if there was a way to have a pre broken in cam that would be the cats meow. For me that would be $60.00 well spent, If it worked.

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    I'm certain it (the service offered) may have some merit on some level ?? but I wish there was a "smiley" that was just shaking its head ? Tom

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    I am skeptical too, which is why I posted the question "has anybody used this?".

    Seems the people that have seem to like it.

    I would think they have all the details worked out before offering such a service. Not sure if they do anything other than Ford cams.

    The gas $$ getting to the lake and the launch fees alone make it a good deal if it is what they say it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdog View Post
    I think that it should work fine. The flat tappet lifters are convexed on the end so that they rotate on the camshaft. The lobes do not make full contact with the lifter, so why would a slight alignment difference between the fixture and the engine block make any difference. We have run the factory blocks with flat tappett cams for 30 years without lifter bore alignment issues. Now that roller cams are more common we spend $500.00 to have our lifter bores bushed and indexed, because the lifter bores in the factory blocks that we have been running for years are not perpendicular to the cam. This is evidence that the lifter bore alignment is not so critical with a flat tappett cam. I have not had a flat tappett cam go flat on me, but I have read and heard about several of them going flat in recent years due to the changes in the oil. I think that if there was a way to have a pre broken in cam that would be the cats meow. For me that would be $60.00 well spent, If it worked.

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    Key words "if it worked"

    Also, just wondering (if) ole CamKing 2000 ever wiped a cam/lifters on their machine, and what would they tell the Cam's owner?
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    ...and of course now I wonder why every cam manufacturer does not include this process when you buy a new cam and lifters?

    Might save a lot of warranty claims if it was legit, but who wants to add $60 or more to the price of anything right off the shelf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet460 View Post
    ...and of course now I wonder why every cam manufacturer does not include this process when you buy a new cam and lifters?

    Might save a lot of warranty claims if it was legit, but who wants to add $60 or more to the price of anything right off the shelf.
    For $60 more you get a used cam and lifters, basically. If it were on ebay it would be 1/2 price and "dyno time only"
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    In the end, if your cam goes flat, you'll know it didn't work, if all is well you'll always wonder if it really worked or if it was just snake oil. However if it gives you peace of mind then it was money well spent,

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