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    Hi folks.I'm making a few changes on my sled this winter.The major change is paint but I'm also looking into a t/r with a single 850dp.My motor is a mild bbf460.I'd like to run o/t headers but don't know much about them as far as water lines routing and such.Does it matter if they are water injected or dry and if so why?I've only had this boat since this summer and love it but I would like the go-fast look.lol.There are plenty of other boats in this area that are way faster than mine but I'm good with that.I just wanna do some cruisin with the wife and want the boat to look half decent while doing it.I by all means am no looker but my lady is and now I want the boat to be also.Thanks for any info I can get on the headers fellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotsofink02 View Post
    I by all means am no looker but my lady is and now I want the boat to be also.Thanks for any info I can get on the headers fellas

    PICS.. If you run the headers dry, they will turn blue and be hot to the touch. Running water through them will make them cooler and not turn blue as fast.

    Heres a FAQ from Bassett Headers

    http://www.bassettracing.com/faq1.htm

    Diagram for setting up the water lines.
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    If you want the go fast look...Please don't run a single carb on Tunnel Ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudPumper View Post
    If you want the go fast look...Please don't run a single carb on Tunnel Ram.
    X2, You lose the "cool and fast" look that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YumaJet View Post
    PICS.. If you run the headers dry, they will turn blue and be hot to the touch. Running water through them will make them cooler and not turn blue as fast.

    Heres a FAQ from Bassett Headers

    http://www.bassettracing.com/faq1.htm

    Diagram for setting up the water lines.
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    Ceramic coated 4 years ago, never a drop of water and still look the same. Would never go chrome again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MudPumper View Post
    If you want the go fast look...Please don't run a single carb on Tunnel Ram.
    X 1000!!!
    As far as wet/dry headers, its pretty easy to add an on/off valve make the headers wet when needed. I wish my GF was that easy!!!

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    Ok Ok,lol!I get the mesage on the single carb.Being a mild motor,what size carbS and brand(make model) t/r do you guys recommend?I live in the Tampa Bay area and go over to St Johns river + the local lakes.I don't run it hard much.Mostly cruisin except when I wanna get after it.And even then it's not for long.I've had no issues with dependability or performance as far as that goes.I just like the "hot boat" look.

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    Nice looking scooter in your profile. You should have some pictures of your boat in there though.

    I've run OT headers both ways on my boat (dry and wet) and it made no difference performance-wise, just a hell of a lot louder dry. Also discolors your pipes faster if they're chromed as the others have said.

    Have to agree with the others on the single TR deal too. Personally I'd find one with a dual top if you want to go with a TR. If for no other reason than everyone will always point out that the single is no good.

    If you don't have any plans to add power, a set of Holley 450's with mechanical secondaries would probably do the trick. Although I've never personally run them, a number of guys here are running them on near stock motors and they seem to like them. Probably suggest steering clear of vacume secondaries. Mechanicals seem to be easier to tune for a boat application.

    What kind of boat did you buy?

    Oh yeah, here's a picture of the scoot for those that would like to see it but don't want to go digging for it.

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    I wouldn't worry too much about water lines etc, as they are pretty easy to figure out and/or find out. I would run the water just to keep them cooler though. However, these babies get very hot. Even with water, there isnt any water to them at idle, so they generally get hot at the times you are going to be near them anyhow. Just a precaution (yea, I've been burned!!!) Not sure how the coated headers are...
    They are also plenty loud too, even with water and "mufflers"

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    Thanks Squirtcha.I really dont have many pics of the boat as of yet.It's a '77 sleekcraft 460 Berk12jg.I love the boat,just want to make a few changes.I'll try to get up a pic.I did post some pics a while pic in a nother thread.I cant remember what the topic was though.This is a pic of my Dad and my lady

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    I have OTT headers on mine with water and baffles. although they look cool, they are way to loud. cool if you don't want to talk to the old lady while your riding. I would get rid of mine if I could and put through the transom, they are loud too but I can build a cover over the motor and use a swim step on the back.

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    My Dad and my Lady
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet pilot View Post
    I have OTT headers on mine with water and baffles. although they look cool, they are way to loud. cool if you don't want to talk to the old lady while your riding. I would get rid of mine if I could and put through the transom, they are loud too but I can build a cover over the motor and use a swim step on the back.

    I agree with you on the noise.My thru transom are loud and really is hard for us to talk when getting after it.But that's cool with me.I cant hear her when she's saying slow down "my boobs are falling out"lol!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotsofink02 View Post
    Thanks Squirtcha.I really dont have many pics of the boat as of yet.It's a '77 sleekcraft 460 Berk12jg.I love the boat,just want to make a few changes.I'll try to get up a pic.I did post some pics a while pic in a nother thread.I cant remember what the topic was though.This is a pic of my Dad and my lady

    Big negative on the tunnel ram with a single carb. I am running a 460 Ford as well with dual Holley 600's and yes with the vacuum secondaries it took a while to tune them in but once I got them dialed in I haven't had to touch them again. Some headers will certainly help your motor breath but I would run water to them to help cool them off. Ceramic coated headers is the way to go on the headers too.

    Here are a couple pics of my Sanger with the tunnel ram and headers.
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