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    Default The Future of the Tom Papp Memorial

    I've been reading all of the comments about this year's get together. Lots of bad ones, a few good ones. The ones I paid most attention to were posted by the folks that showed up four years ago at Lake Elsinore, shortly after Tommy passed away. They all got together because it was a way of grieving for a dear friend. None of us knew what to say or do after he passed away and I don't remember whose idea it was, but it made sense to go use our boats because that's what Tommy built them for.

    Elsinore held no significance for Papp other than it was the closest lake to his shop and he tested boats there. We chose to meet there because geographically it made sense. We towed race boats that didn't belong on the lake to Elsinore, stuffed fuel cans into the non race boats and caravan'd over to the cove.

    We spent most of the day talking about Tommy and all the people he touched and brought together. We stared at the boats he built and remembered all the long nights and weekends spent in his shop working on them. Throughout the day, one at a time, a few boats made passes in the cove while we all watched and appreciated the site. It was therapeutic in a way.

    There was no racing. There was maybe 20 people there. The gathering happened quickly and not all of his customers and friends found out about it in time to go.

    The next year 40 or 50 of his friends showed up. It was quite a site. And since then, for better or worse, this deal has grown through word of mouth and the internet. There's nothing wrong with growing as long as the agenda stays the same.

    It's been proposed that we all need to regulate the behavior of our fellow boaters when they get out of line. If things continue on the same course I have no doubt that this group will not be welcome back at Elsinore. None of us will have to regulate the behavior of anyone on the water because it will be done for us. The original group of people that came together in 2007 won't care much because they will still get together somewhere and remember Tom Papp properly. Its the rest that will pay the price when they no longer have a January boating event to break up the winter blues.

    I'm not in charge. It's not my place to judge anyone or regulate what happens. But I really enjoy seeing everyone on the water in January and I'd hate to see this deal go down the toilet. So I'm not going to propose any rules, I'm simply going to post a link to a video that Busby shot at the first Tom Papp memorial.

    If you're wondering what kind of behavior works at this deal and what doesn't, just pay attention to the video.
    Notice the lack of boats on the water? That's because they were on the shore behind the camera with their owners shooting the breeze and enjoying the sights. I really hope that next January we can do this again without ocean-like conditions in the cove brought about by too many people driving fast at once.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/busby061#p/u/15/NZER1BAf_rM

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    I'm sorry for your guys loss. Sounds like he was a great guy.
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    Great post Mike. I attended the 1st one for Tommy. Tommy was a friend who I could go years without seeing. But when we did hook up it was like old times all over again.

    Being at the 1st one was enough for me. Sad to say When walking around in the early am and seeing guys already drinking and then heading over to the cove you knew this could only get worse as the day wore on.

    I heard from several different boating groups about this last one, and the report wasn't good. You have to remember that it only takes one screw up and it can all go away. The internet is a great place for info and to stay in touch. But it can also be the dimize of events like this.

    Racing 4 wide in a cove....Are you FREKING kidding me? It only spells disaster. You guys all know that. At the end of the day i'm sure some of you stood around and said.."Well we made it another year without an accident".

    You have to police yourselves guys. Back in the day (old man terms) when we saw guys having a few beers, we told them flat out. "Don't plan on running your boat. It ain't gonna happen today"....If they put up a fight, they were gone and not invited back. End of story.

    I hear all the time that Needles group are a bunch of Primadonnas. Not true. The reason that it's word of mouth is to keep this very thing that Mike is talking about from happening. Not paying to launch then bragging about how you screwed over Elisnore for $20.00 bucks. REALLY!!!!! That very thing about got our asses kicked out of Needles Marina. Guys thought it was funny to run out and not pay. Guess who had to cover the bill when that happened? ME.... Not so much fun. The very place that lets you use there facility, knowing the risk there taking, you rip off. NICE JOB....

    I'm sure Tom would be proud. You want to remember the guy? Do it with class.
    Not by ripping people off. Putting yourself in danger, not to mention others. And toast Tom at the end of the day. It's really not that hard to do. If you don't. This deal will be done. And hopefully before someone gets hurt......OR WORSE!!!!!

    Sorry if I sound like i'm better then anyone. Just trying to keep the sport alive. In more ways then one....
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    You can always have the Memorial off the water and bring the boats for a show and shine.
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    Same stuff was going on at the cp regatta. People racing within yards of hundreds of people and boats. It's just a matter of time before something bad happens. Really gives the jet guys a bad name. Maybe if more guys like Mike and Billy speak up others will listen.

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    I feel if the Tom Papp deal turns into a secret deal where only the "click" of prople know when and where then people like me will never be able to attend, like i have been the past 4yrs

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    Although I did not personally know Mr. Papp, I do know of his legacy and most of the great things he's done for our industry.

    And I have to agree with what Mike and Billy said above, the idea of a memorial is a great idea and what better way to remember a boating icon than planning a day of boating right?

    So with all that said, I have been 3 years in a row now, and each year it's grown increasingly more popular, which is a good thing (as long as people are there to remember Mr. Papp) but if you're there to race everybody in sight and by doing so you're putting others and yourself in danger I think you might be there for the wrong reason.

    All I am trying to say is that I think it's a great event held in rememberance for a great guy, but I think it's become slightly out of hand, I know that we could easily bring it all back into perspective by using better judgement.

    I think we should all try to remember why the event is really put on.

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    Blender but does it really matter if your included? I never knew Tommy but always heard about him in Vics shop growing up, so I don't feel through need to be there. I do respect everything he's done and his boats are without a doubt the best in the biz... (jmo) but unless you were as close to him as all their guys were what's it matter if you are left out? Not trying to bust your balls in general I just think that's what people are getting at when they say they won't be included. Personally I'd sit in my boat and play river, too cold for this messkin! Haha carry on!

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    This is the main reason i havent dragged my boat out there. I have no ties to Mr. Papp, never met him or talked to him. He has a core group of guys that are friends( more like close family) that celebrate his life each year. For people to take this as a gathering in the middle of winter rather then what its ment for i wont understand. To me this event should be keep to the group of guys that considered him as a second father rather then a bunch comming to run there boats and act like fools. To each there own, no dog in this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 84Condor View Post
    Blender but does it really matter if your included? I never knew Tommy but always heard about him in Vics shop growing up, so I don't feel through need to be there. I do respect everything he's done and his boats are without a doubt the best in the biz... (jmo) but unless you were as close to him as all their guys were what's it matter if you are left out? Not trying to bust your balls in general I just think that's what people are getting at when they say they won't be included. Personally I'd sit in my boat and play river, too cold for this messkin! Haha carry on!

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    I DID know Tommy and he DID work on my Bahner and i would like to pay my respects just like anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blender over View Post
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    I DID know Tommy and he DID work on my Bahner and i would like to pay my respects just like anyone else.
    I just sent you a PM as you typed this. Didn't mean to single you out, didn't think that whole comment through. But you get the idea of what i meant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 84Condor View Post
    I just sent you a PM as you typed this. Didn't mean to single you out, didn't think that whole comment through. But you get the idea of what i meant?
    No worries bud.

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    Trev, go eat your oatmeal and take a nap.


    halfie, change your plug and go for a walk.


    Bunch of cry babbies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fo Sitty View Post
    Trev, go eat your oatmeal and take a nap.


    halfie, change your plug and go for a walk.


    Bunch of cry babbies
    stick it!!

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