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    please help me out guys! i just bought a new motor, its tuned for av gas! i need ignition and decided to go with a magneto. one of my buddies ( the guy that onwned the motor to begin with) told me to go with a vertex (which im guessing "vertex" is the style of magneto) with external coil (thats what was on it before) then someone else said go with the joe hunt mag. i guess both are good. and what about don zing mags? whats the scoop on those

    what im asking for is dealing with either mag, pros, cons, whatever. i looked up info on the net and just cant make an educated decision based on sole advertisements. i need the low down and dirt on these bad boys.

    did they work for you? how long did it last? and so on

    thank you for the help. feel free to pm me

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    Race boat or lake boat?

    Mag is kinda overkill for a Lake boat

    MSD makes allot of nice products that will work great for you, give your motor specs and I am sure some guys here will chime in on what they run with similiar setups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonz69 View Post
    Race boat or lake boat?

    Mag is kinda overkill for a Lake boat

    MSD makes allot of nice products that will work great for you, give your motor specs and I am sure some guys here will chime in on what they run with similiar setups.
    thank you for the input Fonz! but if i was dead set on running a mag what would you say about them? george stregal swears by magneto's so thats what id like to run.

    a river racer boat maybe if i need to label it, but not just a lake boat or river boat... it should do 88mph with the new motor and current pump, plate set-up etc... the motor is a 470ci bbc... tunnel ram with 2 carbs. 10.1 : 1 comp. forged crank h-beam rods srp pistons the thing is set up. clay smith cam, arp fasteners through out... one of jim guthrie's motors. ( i dont have the spec sheet yet ) im simply double checking all my sources to make sure im getting the best! my goal is to hit 100 mph sooner or later and all i hear is problem after problem after problem with MSD... a mag seems like the most logical choice. again thank you Fonz!

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    http://www.performanceboats.com/show...hlight=magneto
    http://www.performanceboats.com/show...hlight=magneto
    http://www.performanceboats.com/show...hlight=magneto

    If you search the forums there a lot of threads on them.

    It seems to be like Chevy vs Ford, everyone seems to have a preference. I say if you have it, run it.

    Good luck.

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    Allot of people have had good luck with MSD I had a blown 540 in my last boat and the msd worked great.

    Most problems with them come from not having a good ground or bad wiring in the boat.

    Like Trollerdave said if you have it run it but in my opinion for a 88mph boat its a waste of money but thats just my opinion

    Just something to think about but if you are out having fun and the mag dies your weekend is shot. With a MSD box most local speed shops carry them and your back in the water having fun

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    For sure. thank you guys. i appreciate it very much

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    If your not going to turn much over 7500 a good HEI will work good for you. They save mucho bucks and are simple to use.

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    Why a magneto. Electronic ignitions have been around for decades. They work. Mags are beyond old school.

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    well the guy im dealing with is old school. he said run a mag... im just trying to shop around and not just say ok get me one and not know shiet about whats going in my boat, plus ill just look like a push over if my motor guy says jump and i say how high? know what i mean. i seriously dont know shiet about the difference between a mag and electronics. thats why i posted this thread. to become edjumacated enough to make a good decision on my ignition system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steadymobbin View Post
    well the guy im dealing with is old school. he said run a mag... im just trying to shop around and not just say ok get me one and not know shiet about whats going in my boat, plus ill just look like a push over if my motor guy says jump and i say how high? know what i mean. i seriously dont know shiet about the difference between a mag and electronics. thats why i posted this thread. to become edjumacated enough to make a good decision on my ignition system.
    i do know that a mag makes its own power and i dont need an alternator with a mag. thats about it

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    Still need to charge the batt. for bildge pump and lights etc.....

    I did run a HEI MSD in my 540 when it was a pump gas motor and had great sucess with it.
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-8365/

    Or this one is good too and the coil
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-83606/
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-8207/

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    Vertex is the brand of magneto, Joe Hunt, Don Zig, etc all use their techniques and skills to tweak the magneto. You can buy a standard Vertex from summit, but if you want one that will be set up for your application, you may want to talk to Joe Hunt or Don Zig. I have used both of Hunt and Zig and been completely happy with both. If you decide to go to Don Zigs shop, don't go late in the day!

    Old school guys, especially for blown applications, love the mags. Typically, if your running a really hot boat, your not going to have a stereo or lights and a fully charged battery will last you a weekend easily. For a please hot boat, ignition is definitely the way to go.

    Where is GN7, I'd like to hear his take on it. He is a cross between old school and high performance.

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    The Vertex mag is definitely old school, but if you want to go in that direction it's a great high performance ignition system. I started using them in the mid-1960s. Bought them at Joe Hunt's place in Liemert Park (near Crenshaw/Los Angeles). Don Zig was working at Joe Hunt's at that time -- a great mag set-up guy/didn't want anyone else touching it. Since then, Taylor Cable got into the Vertex Mag business in the mid 1990s and Don Zig started his separate business. I wanted to use a Mag because I was offshore racing and constantly breaking batteries during a race (too much pounding for most batteries to take regardless of how they were mounted). With the Mag (since it didn't rely on battery current to fire the engine), once I started the engine I never turned it off until the race was over. On the minus side -- Mags don't generate a lot of spark when cranking an engine to start -- sometimes a problem if your engine floods and you have to do a lot of cranking or your battery isn't fully charged at the start. But once the engine fires, you've got a very hot and consistent spark for combustion.

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    i've been running a Joe Hunt Vertex for about 10 yrs now and love it. Starts easy and I also have an ETC rev limiter.
    "if we keep doing it the same way we always do..we will always get the same results"
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