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    Default grrr 454 wont start...

    thing was runnin nice, then i unhooked the exhaust, lifted the motor up and put the driveline in. then bolted everything back in for good. sure enough the damn thing wont start. has 8 psi on the fuel rail, got spark, checked firing order, dripped some fuel down the carb, i can smell gas out the back. i thought it might be pump related but it was turning smooth before and so i pulled the exit side off and everything looked great. wired the ignition straight to the battery and still no go.

    sigh...
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    gonna try a new ignition module. otherwise maybe ill just sell it and buy a ford.

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    yay it floats and runs. upholstery time!


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    Looks like allot of fun My buddy has one just like it

    If you have spark, the module must be working.
    probably something simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    Looks like allot of fun

    If you have spark, the module must be working.
    probably something simple
    turned out to be the module, i noticed that the wires i had run to the HEI for the 12v and ignition were touching inside the little connector. when i tried to start it i prolly fried it. bought a plug instead of some crimp on connectors so they dont touch.

    also on my little test drive putt putt the pump was grumbling. i think the bearings are toast. it was completely dry when i pulled the dipstick. time to rebuild or buy a new one. i dont really have the funds to do the dominator conversion... id rather spend that money and get a better hull later on.
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    Good idea,just have fun with it. my friends runs about 60 with a stock 454, and gets good mileage(for a jet)
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    the inside looks fine (i think) and the driveline has all new ujoints with zerk fittings. i think its just the pump... (i hope)





    there were no dings or anything on the impeller or the exit housing. everything and perfectly straight. i think the tolerances on teh sides are fairly good as well. hopefully i can find parts for this damn thing.
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    maybe just a front bearing, Panther is still in business last I heard
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    Panther Jet


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    weeee (just need a pump)

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    Sweet!

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    Rowwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka0tyk View Post
    the inside looks fine (i think)




    i think the tolerances on teh sides are fairly good as well. hopefully .
    The clearance between the impeller blades and the suction housing is critcal to overall performance much like all other jets, although it may be an illusion in the photos yours looks like its alot although admittedly the shaft and impeller are not centered currently with the stator housing removed , It should be around .008 to maybe .012, these housings are "sacrafical" meaning the aluminum typically wears and very little wear occurs to the stainless impeller blades this means that if the Impeller to suction housing clearance is excessive (beyond spec) the suction housing needs to be bored and sleeved or "built up" (devcon or??) to compensate and tighten clearances .. temporarily reassemble the stator housing to the suction and measure the impeller to suction clearance in several places with a feeler guage Good Luck Tom

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    I have a rebuilt panther if you are interested.
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