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    So i called Barry Grant today and found out that as of Feb 18th at noon they had ceased operations due to a downturn in the economy. That sucks I hate to hear about companies going out of business. Now I have a problem. I have a Nitrous Works kit on my boat and have questions about it and need jets. I ordered jets from them and called today to find out why it was taking so long to get them and get this recording. If there is anyone that has any experience or knows anything about them please let me know because I need a little help. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Need4Speed77 View Post
    So i called Barry Grant today and found out that as of Feb 18th at noon they had ceased operations due to a downturn in the economy. That sucks I hate to hear about companies going out of business. Now I have a problem. I have a Nitrous Works kit on my boat and have questions about it and need jets. I ordered jets from them and called today to find out why it was taking so long to get them and get this recording. If there is anyone that has any experience or knows anything about them please let me know because I need a little help. Thanks!
    Try Nitrous Supply in Huntington Bch, They may have jets for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike D View Post
    Try Nitrous Supply in Huntington Bch, They may have jets for you.
    Do you know if they have nay info on these kits? They are not like others I am told. The gas jet is bigger than the nitrous and something about the holes in the spray bars. I talked to a guy at Barry Grant a while back and he sent me an attachment that had all the specs on the plate and it's capabilities but the attachment wouldn't open. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Need4Speed77 View Post
    So i called Barry Grant today and found out that as of Feb 18th at noon they had ceased operations due to a downturn in the economy. That sucks I hate to hear about companies going out of business.
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    Try Nitrous Supply in Huntington Bch, They may have jets for you.
    What? You didn't see that coming? He has filed for bankruptcy once already, (so he can't hide there), the company has the very worse customers support of any company in the performance industry, and the guy is a pompus ass. He had it coming.

    Like Mike D said, try Nitrous Supply. Its Mike Thermos' company(founder of NOS) and he is by far you best hope. He has parts for alot different systems, and know them all very well. There is nothing about the Nitrous works system he can't answer. Probably knows more the dumb flock you talked to at Grants. It just one of the many reasons he is closed. (thankfully)



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    Here's a thread he started back in 2008 on another website. Make your own conclusion as to why he went out of business.


    Barry Grant himself responds

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    You whiney-ass drag race wannabee heroes are something else. Denny Savage, I have no idea who you are. If I knew you, that's just how memorable you are to me. My guess is you're an old no-name four-wheel time bomb driver.

    This is America - and as a consumer you have the right to support a company or not. But how about a little facts first. After many years of racing myself, and dealing with racers having fuel delivery problems, I introduced the BG 300. At that time I lived in my shop without running water, shit in the woods, took showers under a tree with a camp shower while working 100 to 120 hours a week while battling fatigue from Hepatitis C which I got from blood transfusions after a sledding accident at age 11. I was a heavy equipment mechanic and having intimate knowledge of pumps and fluids, but did damage to my back doing that work and was in a wheelchair most of the time when not in public. Anyone who has ever seen me at SEMA or PRI used to always see me in scooter. Over the last 3 years I have had 2 spinal surgeries and no longer need the wheelchair. Denny, you couldn't carry my jock strap.

    I then came out with the BG 400 - derivitives of which then became Product Engineering and Magnafuel. The design was made rebuildable as I was throwing away 4 to 6 pumps a year on my own race car and often having to wrap rags around them to get through a night of drag racing. If not for me you would not have anything but the 5-6 psi Carter or the Holley blue pump. I started the super high-volume fuel pump industry with the 300 to fix a need. Planned obsolescence?? For $25 to replace a seal?? Are you guys nuts? Why do they come in for service? A guy on the other thread said he bought a used Magnafuel pump, and burned a piston. And I don't trash Magnafuel products, they are a competitor and build a good product. But theirs wear just like ours do. You are not putting 6 or 8 of theirs on a year, nor of mine. How many motors of you guys have I saved by catching a fuel pump before it went bad? Motors burn up for many reasons and components can go bad at any time, so isn't it better to do a little preventative maintenance? Gasoline is a very harsh liquid to pump and to seal. Get gas on your hands, doesn't your hands turn white as it dries out your hands? Do you think maybe it does that to a seal as well?

    You put a seal in your pump, you don't have a flow bench, you don't check the pressure, volume or amperage draw, so how do you know that even though your pump is leaking that is not ready to let you down and burn your engine up? So for this kind of conscienciousness, I get mother****ed. With 80,000 units in the field, we see 1.5% of the total units in the field every year for service. Do you expect any product that you buy for your racecar for $400 to last indefinitely? I'm sorry - I'm not that smart. But neither is anybody else. We have a year of research and development in trying to find a seal that is even better than what has been so successful for over 20 years - and retrofit into the old fuel pump bodies. Once again, mother****ed for trying to treat my customers the way I want to be treated as a customer. I could have found a kickass seal and obsoleted all the old bodies, making all you guys have to buy a new pump from me or someone else. I guess no good deed goes unpunished.

    Hourly workers?? I employ American workers at wages well above the average with bonuses, medical insurance, paid vacations, paid sick time and 401k. I buy components for our products from American companies.

    Denny says that he has had to work on our stuff at drag racing schools. I have been to many racing schools and they are harder on components because of their round robin day in and day out usage than any racer would ever be. So anything he has to say is of no value.

    King demons (puke)?? Then how come I consistently have them on order and can never get caught up? I had a racer tell me last weekend that he has had his on his car since 2000 and hasn't touched it.

    Haven't gotten contingency money that you were owed in 1985?? I don't even know if I was a contingency sponsor in 1985. Give me a break!

    I tell you boys what. Starting September 1, all pumps that come in that aren't returned in 7 business days from date of receipt, not including weekends, or freight time back to you, whether it needs a seal or complete rebuild, it'll be free.

    By the way, why don't you trash MSD for not selling you resistors and capacitors so that you could solder them and fix your own MSD boards? Competition Cams for not giving you the technique and welding rod for welding up cam journals?

    I have given my whole life to building good components for the racing community. I have won the Daytona 500, Trans Am Series, set Pro Stock records, IHRA Championships - 5 in a row. Demon carburetors are used in all the Richard Petty school cars all over the world, Jeff Gordon School cars, Mario Andretti School cars and the IROC series until it closed, the first ProMod in the 6.70's 6.60's, 6.50's and 6.40's. I had a ProMod racer who burned up a motor with a new car after he plumbed it differently that I had instructed him to plumb it. His prior car was plumbed the way I told him and he never hurt anything. But of course I was to blame. Charles Carpenter has used my fuel pumps for over 20 years. I like Charles, but I bet I don't hear from him but every couple of years to get his pumps freshened.

    Buy my stuff if you choose, because I have been here for 24 years and I don't expect to be going anywhere. I'm important to the industry, otherwise who would people have to copy? I do not sit in some ivory tower. I work every day 6 to 7 days a week either at my manufacturing plant or in Concord at our R&D facility.

    Treat everyone who builds parts for you like this and you'll wind up having to build your own parts. Other manufacturers have told me that they are tired of busting their butts for racers that never seem to appreciate their efforts. You don't have to drag race - you choose to - just like myself. I love drag racing and have given my whole life to it, but if none of us ever pulled to the starting line again, the world will go on.

    Adam comes on this board to help those who need help - not to be run through the coals. He has been with me 16 years and was moved into his position because the service that the prior person in that job was giving customers was unacceptable. By the way he is a hotrodder and a racer. And he is not hourly. He busts his ass 60 hours a week.

    Do not expect a response to anything you may have to say as a rebuttal to this. For those of you who are a customer, we appreciate you and are here to service you. Private message Adam and he'll help you. Those of you that don't like me - Barry Grant doesn’t suck - you do.

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    What are you looking for Den? I've got lots 28's, 32's, 35's, 37's, 38's, 39's, 40's, 41's, 42's, 44's, 45's, and 46's. Those are all multiples (8 or more of each).

    Don't know if any those work for ya, but you're welcome to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtcha? View Post
    What are you looking for Den? I've got lots 28's, 32's, 35's, 37's, 38's, 39's, 40's, 41's, 42's, 44's, 45's, and 46's. Those are all multiples (8 or more of each).

    Don't know if any those work for ya, but you're welcome to them.

    Dan
    Dan, do you have a nitrous works kit? The nitrous works jets are different then usual jets. Don't ask me why. Or maybe so people would have to buy them from Nitrous Works. I am sending my kit to Mike at Nitrous Supply to look at it and make sure eveything is A OK! He said a couple things that I explained to him dont sound right so asked me to ship it to him and he would look at it. Nice guy and he seems to know his chit! hopefully I will be good to go after the boat is right side up and the motor is back where it should be. Thanks Dan!

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    Nope I think they're all NOS, but not sure.

    Sounds like you're in good hands there.

    Good luck with it.

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    Hard headed company for sure....... Doubt it was soley the market, that caused the demise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirtcha? View Post
    Nope I think they're all NOS, but not sure.

    Sounds like you're in good hands there.

    Good luck with it.
    Ya thanks anyway Dan. If there is anything wrong or not suited for my application he said he would sell me a new plate for a smokin deal. Should be a little quicker this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleekcrafter View Post
    Hard headed company for sure....... Doubt it was soley the market, that caused the demise.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    What? You didn't see that coming? He has filed for bankruptcy once already, (so he can't hide there), the company has the very worse customers support of any company in the performance industry, and the guy is a pompus ass. He had it coming.

    Like Mike D said, try Nitrous Supply. Its Mike Thermos' company(founder of NOS) and he is by far you best hope. He has parts for alot different systems, and know them all very well. There is nothing about the Nitrous works system he can't answer. Probably knows more the dumb flock you talked to at Grants. It just one of the many reasons he is closed. (thankfully)
    You told it like it is. The company had some good stuff about 15yrs ago and when the competition picked up, they dropped the ball.It is a good thing they are gone.

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    It wasn't so must he dropped the ball. Its that the customer was always wrong. Always. And way to stupid to repair his own stuff. You can see in the letter that somebody wanted something other than some carb parts, when he mentions MSD and Comp Cams. He wouldn't have sold you so much as a main jet if he thought you couldn't get them some were else.

    As for "I'm important to the industry, otherwise who would people have to copy"?
    Is he *ucking kidding? I suppose the basic design Demon carbs are an original idea.

    Like I said. A total pompous ass, that I swore I would never buy another product from after he refused to sell a simple regulator diaphram, and wanted the service the "whole" regulator for $10.00 less than a new one, not counting shippping both ways. DUH?



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    that dude could care less. he fled the country awhile ago and went underground.

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