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    Default 73 Sleekcraft 455 Olds Build

    In my 20s and figured that while I don't have a wife sapping up all my cash () it would be a good time to get a jet boat. I think I'm gonna call it "why not?"

    It's a 73 Sleekcraft Rebel with a 69 Olds 455 and a Berkeley jet. In need of serious TLC. Not looking to set any speed records, just a fun project and something fun for the summer.

    Been around boats but never owned one and haven't spent any time around jet drives except the few beers I had while checking out my boat the other night. So sorry in advance for the stupid questions that are bound to come.

    I have been reading posts here and you guys know everything so thought I'd join the club. Appreciate any advice or insight you guys can offer.

    A few questions below, but first a few pics...

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    All gauges broken, only oil pressure seems to be sending...
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    If you look closely, you can see brown flames that were clearly painted by hand with what seems to be latex paint, then rolled over with same paint because the flames looked so bad. Awesome.
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    There she is... beauty eh? haha

    So, a few questions...


    The jet is missing the place diverter as well as the linkage to it. Looks like they have a bilge going where the linkage was supposed to go.
    • Any recommendations for a diverter? Can I fab one? I'm not sure what model the Berkely Jet is, but the nozzle has L4405 on it.
    The headers are performance marine. I've seen some Bassett stuff around and they seem to be the way to go but I'm not looking to spend more than I paid for my boat in headers unless you all say it's a must. Guessing I can find some used. Also, I live at Lake Tahoe. They are crazy restrictive up here and although this boat is awesomely loud, I'm considering putting some baffles or something on it so they don't hassle me all the time. I'd like to take the boat out once or twice when it's nice and flat here in Tahoe.
    • Should I do thru-transom or leave the pipes up? Any recommendations for a good way to go with decent performance/sound/price?
    Also a few smaller things:
    • Recommendations for gauges?
    • Looking to build a cover for the motor so my idiot friends don't burn/mame/kill themselves. Can I buy one? If not, no biggie.
    • Planning to use fiberglass-safe stripper unless someone here says different.
    • Anything else I should know about these boats that they are notorious for (i.e. these hulls rip in half at 65mph, etc. ha)?
    Thanks for your help. Looking forward to this project, gonna be an awesome summer.
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    Cool project. Always good to see another Rebel. Those are logs with over transom pipes. not headers. I see Olds headers in the spam section all the time. Thru transom or over transom is going to be personal preference. Thru transom is generally quieter if that is what you are after. Here is a link to a thread where I stripped the paint off my Rebel. The results were satisfactory to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Mohican View Post
    Cool project. Always good to see another Rebel. Those are logs with over transom pipes. not headers. I see Olds headers in the spam section all the time. Thru transom or over transom is going to be personal preference. Thru transom is generally quieter if that is what you are after. Here is a link to a thread where I stripped the paint off my Rebel. The results were satisfactory to me.
    Your boat is sweet! I'm going to guess that I have stock wood grain underneath my brown/maroon paint. I'll probably strip, sand and start over with a good base.

    Good to know about the logs with transom pipes. They seem bulky compared to all your pipes that you guys have. Should I get rid of em?

    Will headers give me a noticeable increase in performance? I'm only planning a light rebuild to the motor right now, but I might go all the way... all depends on how the compression test goes this weekend.

    What's the low down on thru vs over? Am I going to be laughed off the water if I have thru-transom? Only advantages I see for thru are sound, harder for people to burn themselves and more clearance for a tow rope (but not really sure if I can pull someone on a wakeboard or tube with this??). The over are pretty wicked... but not sure my motor is going to do them justice.

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    Should I be taking apart my jet and looking for damage or parts that need replacing (other than the reverse bucket)? Or should I just take it out for a test to see if I have any leaks in the boat and slippage in the jet?

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    what is it about Tahoe and '73 Sleeks??



    This is a good friend of ours. Boat's been in his family since new. He works in North Lake, lives in G'ville.
    Is it just me or are toilet seats getting smaller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reno_eNVy View Post
    Your boat is sweet! I'm going to guess that I have stock wood grain underneath my brown/maroon paint. I'll probably strip, sand and start over with a good base.

    Good to know about the logs with transom pipes. They seem bulky compared to all your pipes that you guys have. Should I get rid of em?

    Will headers give me a noticeable increase in performance? I'm only planning a light rebuild to the motor right now, but I might go all the way... all depends on how the compression test goes this weekend.

    What's the low down on thru vs over? Am I going to be laughed off the water if I have thru-transom? Only advantages I see for thru are sound, harder for people to burn themselves and more clearance for a tow rope (but not really sure if I can pull someone on a wakeboard or tube with this??). The over are pretty wicked... but not sure my motor is going to do them justice.
    Thanks for the compliment. My boat is thru transom. You will not be laughed off the lake for them. Lots of fast jets out there with thru transom exhaust. I do have a set of headers I bought this winter. I have not installed them yet.

    If that was my boat, I would get it running with the least amount of changes/money possible and go to the lake. If you really enjoy it over the summer make the major changes to it as a winter project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Mohican View Post
    If that was my boat, I would get it running with the least amount of changes/money possible and go to the lake. If you really enjoy it over the summer make the major changes to it as a winter project.
    X2....clean it up & tune it up & go enjoy it for the summer ...get used to what it will do!...baffles can be found on here in the Parts section...you have a front motor cover, so you dont need a full cover ...your so called stupid friends dont need to be back there by the logs anyway!!!...it will pull a skier/tuber just fine...you, IMO, only need a oil pressure & water temp gage...the rest, IMO, are useless...check the senders, might need new one's!...those early Sleeks are a fine boat & there are alot of members that have them ...it appears from the pics, that you need a control cable & f/r lever for the f/r bucket?...ask for what you need in the Parts for Sale forum ...i'm guessing with what you have, that 53-56 mph is about all it will do in its present form...thats pretty good for a stock Olds..."Don't" wing the motor up & it will give you plenty of fun for the summer ...thats my .02 cents ...sooo...now the ?? is, what do you want to do????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Mohican View Post
    If that was my boat, I would get it running with the least amount of changes/money possible and go to the lake. If you really enjoy it over the summer make the major changes to it as a winter project.
    x3!

    If it runs good, button up the loose ends and take it for a spin. That first ride will tell you everything you need to know for future plans. I built mine up from a bare hull in a week and enjoyed it for a couple weeks before the snow flew. The first run showed that I needed some pump work and some more bracing on the body.

    The first time you stab the gas (assuming things go right) is a great feeling.

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    Nice project....it looks about the same condition as mine, which is also my first jetboat. I plan on running mine with the "patina" finish for awhile...
    Get yers going and tested out on the water before worrying about paint.
    Gauges...what gauge's are in there currently??? Look like 2 1/16 S-W Greenlines???if so, I'd be interested in them if you do end up replacing them. I'm running old Mallory 2 5/8 gauges that came with boat, just replacing a couple that were boke with Autometer Sport Comps.

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    Sounds like getting it running and out on the water is the plan.

    @josh - not sure what the gauges are but I'll find out this weekend when I'm working on it and let you know. I'll probably replace em all so I have a good set.

    Will compression test this weekend and see how it holds up. That will dictate how much of a rebuild I need to do. Thinking gaskets, check pumps, sending units, etc.

    The boat is at a friend's house for now, an hour away so I can't check the model on the carb. Can anyone ID the model and if it is recommended for a 455? I see some mods on here that you guys have done... any favorites?

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    Probably need to get a reverse bucket on it at some point. Will have to replace all the associated levers as those are missing too.

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    Eventually want to do thru transom I think, maybe just run the logs for now and get some risers (snails?).

    I'm sure I've missed a lot. This is fun.

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    That is an Edelbrock carb. My guess would be a 1406 or 1411 since it has an electric choke. Either way it should be good enough to start it and see what other issues you have if any.

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    I bet those are the same gauges that were in both of my Sleeks. They are not SW. I can't remember who made them but it is a company that is out of business now.





    I replaced my cruiser gauges with these from Hardin Marine.


    I used white face gauges from Bass Pro on the Rebel.



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    Boat runs, floats, doesn't leak and goes! Fun stuff.

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    Checked compression on the motor. Motor was cold at the time. Might be a little higher when warm? Have heard rule of thumb is that all cylinders should be within 10% of average compression. A little concerned about #4 and #7 cylinders. (Results below)

    Didn't intend to but had a few beers and ended up taking the motor out and disassembling. Oil was good (dirty, but no water). Have down to the heads now. Took off intake, cam covers, etc. 75% of the bolts were finger tight?!?! Yikes! I honestly don't know how the thing was running. Logs came right off. Intake gasket was largely comprised of RTV with poor mating.

    Hoping I can get it back together with better results and possibly increase compression. Maybe adjust valves and call it good or should I have it honed and do the rings?

    Avg = 132
    #1 - 125 (-5%)
    #2 - 135 (+2%)
    #3 - 125 (-5%)
    #4 - 117 (-11%)
    #5 - 130 (-2%)
    #6 - 135 (+2%)
    #7 - 150 (+14%)
    #8 - 140 (+6%)

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