newbie
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread:
newbie

  1. #1
    Senior Member jamesblown97's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    st george ut
    Posts
    265

    Default newbie

    just got my first jet boat and have a few questions the main one is what is the big difference between a jetovater and a place diverter. i know ones made by place the by berkley but are the pros and cons. i know that this has probably been beat to death on here but im still learning. thanks

  2. Remove Advertisements
    PerformanceBoats.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    Hoodys and swim trunks Elkidminoltu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Waterford, MI
    Posts
    869

    Default

    As far as I know, the Jetovator was made by Berkely waaay back in the day as one of the first trim options for their jets. They worked well overall, but parts have been discontinued or are no longer available, namley, the trim motor (these were electric with cables to move the trim). This motor was a window motor out of a GM product of some sort (Olds I think) and the gears were subject to stripping. These motors are no longer available from the factory. I think I've heard of wiring shorting out too. The nice thing is, if you want to keep your boat OE, and find a working one, it's a pretty neat little piece.

    The Place Diverter is the newer option of trim for a jet. They are available for all berkely bowls and come manually or hydraulically operated. Some will modify the housing for more UP trim and shoot those huge rooster tails. The manual ones are cheaper in price, but mounting the handle in a functional spot in a tight cockpit is often a downside. People bitch about stubbing toes while walking around, or breaking ankles if the boat suddenly jetison's you out. The hydraulic options are more expensive, about the same to package and are toted as being the best option for a jet. The simple push button UP and DOWN option beats the manual ratcheting handle and you have more options for fine tuning the angle.

    It's really about what you can afford and how much gas you want to waste or mph you want to pick up.

    A Place Diverter would be a better option due to parts availabilty and later technology for operation and longevity.

  4. #3
    Senior Member jetboatperformance's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Atascadero Calif
    Posts
    7,463

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesblown97 View Post
    just got my first jet boat and have a few questions the main one is what is the big difference between a jetovater and a place diverter. i know ones made by place the by berkley but are the pros and cons. i know that this has probably been beat to death on here but im still learning. thanks
    They are similar both work and provide Jet trim , A Jet0Vater is an early Berkeley offering to provide nozzle trim to Berkeley jets. Jet0vators trim before they steer and require quite a few little parts and pieces to operate correctly Jet0Vators have somewhat limited range of motion (up and down), they tend to leak a bit and using them in conjunction with some applications beyond stock setups (droops etc) makes for some engineeering "issues" The majority of these were Electric/cable operated but can be worked with a manual controller

    Place Diverters steer before trimming eliminating a significant amount of small pieces and engineering, they are very efficiant, have a huge range of up to down trim function, and lots of options for control and applications and installation We've sold hundred over the years and always had very good success with them ,Very good product Tom

    (Elkid.. you type faster than me )

    Winter Place Diverter Special, Jet Boat Performance

  5. Remove Advertisements
    PerformanceBoats.com
    Advertisements
     

  6. #4
    tintingsandiego krusn56's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,063

    Default

    I love the manual place and havn't hurt myself....It functions perfect. Keeps it more hot rod. The jetovator forces you to turn your bowl and makes it harder to fill it with gear oil.
    Made In The Shade

    Custom Window Tinting

  7. #5
    Senior Member jet460's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Modesto, Ca.
    Posts
    681

    Default

    A manual Place Diverter was the single best thing I have added to my boat so far.
    100 years from now, none of this will matter.

  8. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Kingman/Golden Vly, Az
    Posts
    1,278

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by krusn56 View Post
    The jetovator forces you to turn your bowl and makes it harder to fill it with gear oil.
    i dis-agree!...you dont have to turn the bowl if you have a split bowl! ...you only have to turn the part that bolts to the bowl, so the pins line up for the nozzle...i have a J-O-V with manual control & it works great...i run it with a 4* wedge...there are also mods you can do to make those huge roosters!!!! ...parts can be had from Berkeley (manual), but not complete kits...just sayin' my .02 cents

    FastRat

  9. #7
    tintingsandiego krusn56's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,063

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FastRat View Post
    i dis-agree!...you dont have to turn the bowl if you have a split bowl! ...you only have to turn the part that bolts to the bowl, so the pins line up for the nozzle...i have a J-O-V with manual control & it works great...i run it with a 4* wedge...there are also mods you can do to make those huge roosters!!!! ...parts can be had from Berkeley (manual), but not complete kits...just sayin' my .02 cents

    FastRat
    If you have a split with that part...sure
    Made In The Shade

    Custom Window Tinting

  10. #8
    Senior Member jamesblown97's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    st george ut
    Posts
    265

    Default

    thanks for the info guys.i guess now i need to do more research on my boat to see if i t has a split or solid bowl and stuff like that. im new to the whole jet boat thing is there an easy way to tell what ive got it has a 12jca pump with a 455 it runs good turns about 4500 rpm wide open my brother got me hooked last summer with his jet boat that eventually sunk and now that i have the bug theres a lot of catching up i need to do lol. and im not gonna be running a droop
    Last edited by jamesblown97; 03-31-2011 at 01:31 PM.

  11. #9
    tintingsandiego krusn56's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,063

    Default

    Post some pics....If your pump is stock to the plate 12jca would mean you have a C regular bowl and an A impeller. Be careful on the olds...They have oil issues and to much water flow issues. I would keep it under 4000 till you know what you have.
    Made In The Shade

    Custom Window Tinting

  12. #10
    AKA OhOneWS6 Last Mohican's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    2,637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesblown97 View Post
    thanks for the info guys.i guess now i need to do more research on my boat to see if i t has a split or solid bowl and stuff like that.
    Split Bowl


    Non Split Bowl

  13. #11
    Senior Member jamesblown97's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    st george ut
    Posts
    265

    Default deducas level

    thanks mohican that made it easy i have a solid this image verification is killin me what a pain in the a$$
    Last edited by jamesblown97; 04-01-2011 at 01:56 PM.

  14. #12
    "Mad" Member Jet Mad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Cape Town, South Africa
    Posts
    769

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesblown97 View Post
    thanks mohican that made it easy i have a solid this image verification is killin me what a pain in the a$$
    You do not need a split bowl to fit a Place Diverter. A 12JC pump with Place Diverter works just as well.

    Here are some pics of my Kona with a 12JC pump, Place Diverter (Hydraulic) and ride plate.

    I also run a 455 Olds and learned the hard way. Keep it under 4500RPM and she will live. I had done a complete rebuild with all the necessary mods and spin an "A" impellar @ 5500 RPM (Revs Limited @ 5500 RPM at the moment).

    Wikus
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSCN0322-1.JPG 
Views:	113 
Size:	35.5 KB 
ID:	111335   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	100_8904.JPG 
Views:	99 
Size:	57.4 KB 
ID:	111336   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DSCN0319-1.JPG 
Views:	91 
Size:	36.9 KB 
ID:	111337   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Kona New 4.jpg 
Views:	131 
Size:	72.3 KB 
ID:	111338  


    Titan H2O Submersible Android Phone

+ Reply to Thread

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Register Now

Please enter the name by which you would like to log-in and be known on this site.

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Tags for this Thread

Digg This Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95